Later, three-time Stanley Cup champion and new CHSN Blackhawks analyst Alec Martinez makes his podcast debut to discuss his transition from player to broadcaster. He also weighs in on the trade deadline, Nick Foligno being moved, and how the Blackhawks move forward with a new leadership group.

Plus, Pat, Charlie and Alec dive into the development of young defensemen Artyom Levshunov and Sam Rinzel, Connor Bedard’s growth from Year 2 to Year 3, and how off-ice bonds typically translate to on-ice success.