Every other day is a new worst day in NSW at the moment. 

But despite the almost-daily rise in the number of COVID-19 cases, the NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian still wants to gradually reopen once vaccination rates hit a certain percentage. 

While the Prime Minister Scott Morrison is in broad agreement, leaders in many other states are no longer so certain. 

So why does the national reopening goal everyone agreed to in July seem to be shifting? 

And why is the Prime Minister so insistent it must be met?

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Professor Nancy Baxter, Head, Melbourne School of Population and Global Health, University of Melbourne 

David Speers, Host, Insiders, ABC TV