The American Civil Liberties Union has launched a publicity campaign aimed at pushing back on President Donald Trump’s pledge to deport illegal aliens. But pastor and Congressman Mark Harris, R-N.C., says the ACLU is “missing the point that not all of these folks that are coming are asylum seekers.” 

“If you really were compassionate and really believed in the asylum program, you would not just be trying to push this Biden administration's process along the way, because what you do is you mess it up for those who have real need, and you mess it up for those that are seeking asylum in this country,” Harris said. 

Trump has pledged to deport illegal aliens, beginning first with criminals and those who pose a threat to the country, such as members of the Venezuelan prison gang Tren de Aragua, which now operates in over a dozen states across the U.S., including North Carolina, the state Harris represents. 

Voters “very much believe that we've got to get back to law and order,” Harris said, adding that he thinks Trump was given a “mandate” in the 2024 election to secure the border. 

Harris, a newly sworn in member of Congress, joins “The Daily Signal Podcast” to explain why he chose to get involved in politics and to discuss the need for secure borders and enforcement of immigration law. 

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