Restaurant Owners Uncorked

Isaac Lee Collins, the founder and CEO of Fifth & Emery Frozen Yogurt and Chocolate, shares his journey from managing a chocolate shop at age 22 to owning five locations in Kansas City that combine frozen yogurt with gourmet chocolates and caramel apples. The conversation explores the "philosophy of hospitality," the evolving work ethic of Gen Z employees, and the practical financial strategies, such as choosing between SBA and traditional bank loans, that Collins used to scale his business while maintaining 100% independence.

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The Power of Hospitality Systems: Collins credits his time at Olive Garden for teaching him that seamless systems and processes are the backbone of a successful restaurant.

Balancing Seasonal Revenue: By combining frozen yogurt (summer-heavy) with chocolates and caramel apples (winter-heavy), Collins created a year-round sustainable business model.

Gen Z Management: With nearly 70 employees under 21, Collins emphasizes that while "kids these days" are motivated differently, they bring unique energy when mentored with intentionality.

The "COVID Shift" in Work: Collins observed a notable change in employee expectations and engagement post-pandemic, which he refers to as the "COVID shift".

Funding Independence: Collins prefers traditional bank loans over SBA loans to avoid excessive red tape and retains 100% ownership to avoid having partners who might limit his vision.

Due Diligence on Lenders: When pursuing SBA loans, it is critical to ask the bank how many SBA loans they actually close per year rather than just accepting a sales pitch about the size of their team.

Community Connection as a Moat: In a market with over 100 dessert spots, Fifth & Emery focuses on small touches, like coloring pages and knowing customers' names, to build lasting community ties.

Digital Presence and Disconnect: Both the host and guest discuss the mental benefits of disconnecting from smartphones to remain present with family and focused on business.

The "Pay It Forward" Concept: The episode explores using digital loyalty programs to allow customers to "pay it forward," creating a culture of kindness that mirrors the human element of hospitality.

Entrepreneur vs. Owner: Collins distinguishes between someone who can work a system and someone who has the "dog in them" to handle the high-stress, 24/7 reality of true entrepreneurship

Peter Waters, owner of T/aco in Boulder, Colorado, discusses the state of the industry as we enter 2026. Peter candidly reflects on a difficult 2025, noting that rising operational costs and shifting socialization patterns among college students and remote workers have made for a less profitable year. However, the conversation pivots to a deeply inspiring story of community support: T/aco donated $50,000 in gift cards to 50 local families facing food insecurity. This "fire hose" approach to marketing not only provided these families with a "T/aco rich" experience where they could dine without financial worry, but it also rejuvenated the staff and built immediate, meaningful relationships with a new demographic of regulars.

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The "First Four Gifts": Peter shares Danny Meyer's philosophy that restaurants are unique because they can provide the first four gifts a human ever receives: eye contact, a smile, an embrace, and food.

The "T/aco Rich" Concept: By giving $1,000 gift cards to families, Peter wanted them to feel "rich" in his restaurant., able to order anything they want for about ten visits without checking their bank balance.

Vanishing Demographics: Due to high rents, the 22-to-30-year-old post-college audience has almost entirely left Boulder, leaving a gap in the customer base.

The Work-From-Home Effect: With more people working remotely, restaurants are losing the "stop-off" drink and socialization business that used to happen between the office and home.

Fire Hose Marketing: Instead of a "sprinkler" approach of small, scattered ads, Peter focused his resources on one massive, impactful community donation.

Shift in Peak Hours: Peter has observed that guests now tend to eat strictly between 6:00 PM and 7:30 PM, with a dramatic "drop off" in business after 7:45 PM.

Gen Z Socialization: Students aged 18–22 are socializing differently, often staying in their rooms and relying on delivery or "rejection-proof" digital interactions rather than going out.

Wage and Housing Disparity: Peter points out that even as minimum wages rise, they cannot keep pace with real estate; a person would need to make $60 an hour to afford a home in Boulder.

The Gift Card Tip Benefit: A secondary benefit of the gift card program was that the families used the cards to leave tips, directly benefiting the T/aco staff financially.

Sundance Film Festival: Boulder is preparing to host the Sundance Film Festival in 2027, which Peter hopes will turn the typically slow month of January into a profitable period for local businesses.

Keith Paul of Good Egg Dining discusses the challenges and strategies of navigating the modern hospitality landscape, particularly in the Tulsa and Oklahoma City markets. Keith shares insights on the resilience of the restaurant industry, his philosophy of hands-on coaching and management, and the necessity of prioritizing human connection over "clunky" AI and automation in service. They also examine the economic pressures facing the industry, from minimum wage hikes in California to the rising Consumer Price Index (CPI), emphasizing that slow, intentional growth and a picky hiring process are key to long-term stability.

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Deric Rosenbaum, President and CTO of Groucho's Deli, a legendary brand celebrating 85 years in business, shares his journey from a commercial construction background to leading the brand's growth and technological evolution, emphasizing a philosophy of "adapt, not change" to modernize systems while preserving the core essence of community and hospitality. He discusses the strategic decision to prioritize controlled, concentric growth through franchising, the importance of fostering human connection in an increasingly digital world, and how leveraging data and a robust tech stack (including Square for restaurants, Ovation, and Bikky) helps optimize operations and enhance customer loyalty without sacrificing the personal touch.

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This episode features Jason Ingermanson, President and CEO of JRI Hospitality. Based in Salina, Kansas, Ingermanson oversees a diverse multi-concept portfolio that includes Mokas Coffee & Eatery, Chompie’s, and a massive franchise footprint as one of the nation’s largest Freddy’s Frozen Custard & Steakburgers operators. The conversation explores Ingermanson's journey from his early days at Burger King to managing high-growth brands across multiple states, emphasizing his philosophy of developing people, leveraging data for site selection, and maintaining a competitive edge through personal discipline and organizational alignment.

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In this episode of the Restaurant Owners Uncorked podcast, Wil  interviews Trace Miller, the founder and CEO of Konala, a health-focused fast-casual brand. Miller shares the incredible personal story that anchors his business: his own childhood battle with Lennox-Gastaut syndrome, a severe form of epilepsy that began at age three. While doctors predicted he would be brain dead by age 13, Miller credits his mother with being the "desperate" researcher who refused to give up, eventually finding the medical professionals and the strict nutritional protocol that cured him. This life-altering experience with the power of food, combined with Miller’s military background and his "Simple scales, fancy fails" philosophy, serves as the foundation for Konala’s mission to provide delicious, high-protein, and convenient whole-food meals to the public.

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Trace Miller’s Personal Miracle: Miller himself was the patient who suffered from Lennox-Gastaut syndrome; he was cured through a strict medical ketogenic diet after a grim prognosis.

A Mother’s Relentless Research: The cure was discovered not by doctors, but by Miller’s mother, who spent years researching alternative medical texts and articles to save her son.

"Simple Scales, Fancy Fails": This is Miller’s primary business mantra, emphasizing that operational simplicity is the key to successful expansion, while over-complication leads to failure.

Nuanced View on Seed Oils: While Miller personally avoids them and recognizes their inflammatory nature, he acknowledges they "play a role" in the industry as an affordable fat that can be "helpful" for managing margins.

The Philosophy of Via Negativa: Miller applies the concept of "improvement through subtraction," focusing on removing unnecessary or harmful elements from the menu to enhance the final product.

Focus on Metabolic Health: Konala was built to address the American metabolic crisis, specifically targeting the 74% of the population that is overweight or obese.

The Paradox of Choice: Miller keeps the Konala menu intentionally small (around 12 to 20 items) to reduce decision fatigue for customers and operational friction for staff.

Military Discipline and Self-Education: Miller’s leadership style and business acumen were largely shaped by his time in the military and his commitment to being a "perpetual student" through reading.

The Value of Consistency: Miller argues that long-term success requires the discipline to "do the boring things" consistently for 15 years rather than chasing "flashy" or "fancy" shortcuts.

Strategic Franchising: Konala focuses on partnering with franchisees who have multi-unit experience to ensure the brand’s high standards are maintained during growth.

Trey Morgan and Derek Copeland of Sentinel Grove Partners pull back the curtain on the high-stakes world of restaurant real estate and private equity. The trio explores the critical importance of the landlord-tenant relationship, viewing it as a long-term partnership rather than a mere transaction, and discusses the shift toward a "landlord’s market" in high-growth regions like the Sunbelt. Beyond the numbers, Trey and Derek emphasize that successful investing is about "betting the jockey, not the horse," highlighting how exceptional leadership, staff retention, and clear succession planning are the true indicators of a concept's longevity in an unpredictable economy.

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Wil peaks with Enga Stanfield, co-owner of Pizza Today's 2025 Pizzeria of the year, multi-location Mattenga's Pizzeria in San Antonio, and Head of Community at Owner.com. Enga, an Iranian-born former engineer with no prior restaurant experience, shares how she and her husband Matt transitioned from engineering to restaurant ownership in 2014 by purchasing a struggling pizzeria, initially losing significant money due to inexperience. Through relentless grassroots marketing, obsessive cost control, data-driven location selection, and frugal self-funded growth, they turned the business around, expanded to multiple locations, achieved consistent strong sales growth, and built a profitable family-oriented operation that prioritizes community giving, strong systems, and work-life balance while preparing for potential franchising.

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Israel Jiles reflects on his evolution from managing elite, high-volume establishments like Catch NYC and partnering with Montclair Hospitality Group (Ani Ramen) to founding his passion project, Po Boy Riche. The episode captures the pivotal moment around the one-hour mark where Jiles discusses the decision to leave the security of established hospitality groups to build something deeply personal.

The discussion centers on the "uncompromising pursuit of authenticity"—from shipping legendary Leidenheimer bread directly from New Orleans to ensuring his beignets rival those of Café Du Monde. Jiles explains that Po Boy Riche isn’t just a restaurant; it’s a cultural bridge. He shares insights on the grit required to launch in the competitive Jersey City market, the importance of operational excellence learned in the "big leagues" of NYC dining, and his philosophy on community-centric business, exemplified by the restaurant's "Artist Wall."

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Asheville-based restaurateur Jacob Sessoms shares his 26-year journey from a trade-focused background in electrical work to becoming a James Beard-nominated chef. Sessoms details how his early experience in construction provided a unique "unfair advantage" in the restaurant world, allowing him to maintain his own facilities and stay resilient during lean times. He discusses the difficult transition from being a passionate cook to a disciplined business owner, highlighting the shift from sole proprietorship to a sophisticated investment model that allows for shared risk and growth. Throughout the conversation, Sessoms advocates for "running into the storm" like a bison, viewing failures, including the 2008 crash and COVID-19, as essential educational assets that build long-term grit and operational strength.

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