In this episode, Ashish Tulsian sits down with Joseph Chartouni, CEO of Al Sayer Franchising in Kuwait (Caribou Coffee and Five Guys), to unpack what actually drives restaurant brands at scale. Joseph shares how resilience shaped him early, growing up between Lebanon and Kuwait during the civil war, and how those experiences influenced his leadership style.
The conversation challenges the common view of marketing as “messaging.” For Joseph, marketing starts with product, innovation, and understanding what customers are becoming, but it’s only real when it’s fulfilled through operations, store experience, SOPs, training, quality assurance, and food safety. He explains “marketing as a life benefit”.
Joseph also reflects on values learned from his father, lessons from bringing restaurant concepts to life, the shift from marketing to operations at Americana, and why leadership, focus, and partnerships drove key results. He closes with a practical reminder: strong culture is built in small details, and strategy only works when backed by P&L discipline and relentless execution.
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