Phil Smith and James Copley return for the latest episode of The Roar Podcast to react to Sunderland’s retained list decisions and what they mean for the summer ahead.

The lads discuss the major calls, the players moving on, those still in talks and how the squad could take shape as Régis Le Bris prepares for another huge season.

There is also chat on Sunderland’s growing global profile, with the Black Cats having a major presence at the World Cup after a remarkable Premier League campaign and European qualification.

From retained list debate to World Cup exposure, player trading, recruitment and the club’s increasing reach in international markets - there is plenty to get stuck into.