America is a compassionate country. But what if the way we’ve been “helping” those in poverty actually makes things worse?

On this episode, host Nic Dunn sits down with James Whitford, founder and executive director of True Charity and Watered Gardens Ministries, and author of “The Crisis of Dependency: How Our Efforts to Solve Poverty Are Trapping People in It, and What We Can Do to Foster Freedom Instead.”

They explore the unintended consequences of well-meaning welfare programs and handout-style charity, discussing how both public assistance and private aid can unintentionally foster dependency — and why restoring dignity, emphasizing work, and leaning on local solutions rooted in the principle of subsidiarity could offer a better path forward. With real-life stories, policy insights, and a vision to supercharge civil society, this conversation invites listeners to rethink poverty, charity, and the American dream.

Show notes:

• The Crisis of Dependency: How Our Efforts to Solve Poverty Are Trapping People in It, and What We Can Do to Foster Freedom Instead
• True Charity
• Watered Gardens Ministries
• Sutherland Institute Work & Opportunity Initiative

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Defending Ideas is a weekly podcast produced by Sutherland Institute. On this show, we are committed to renewing the principles of common sense conservatism, making you a better champion of sound ideas. Visit defendingideas.org.