All our fellows are good but John Murray was the first person to earn an APTN-CAJ Fellowship. The idea was to give an Indigenous person, who was mid-career a chance to embed with APTN Investigates and make their own episode, while getting paid to do it.

Yes, John Murray was good, so good we asked him to stay. Along with the fellowship, we also discuss his documentary, Cowboys and Pretendians, which asks why cinema is still so racist.