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Billy's journey continues after leaving the Pentecostal organization, including his struggles with his sexuality, which were in direct conflict with Christianity. 

He shares being divorced, then being a single dad, to finding new love with his husband, his continuing search for spirituality, and his favorite 3 R's: reconciliation, resilience, resolve.

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We talk with a long-time friend as he shares his journey out of the Pentecostal church. It began when he saw the greed, the focus and priority placed on constant fundraising, and the comparison to just another multi-level-marketing business. 

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• Man-mosa (beer-mosa) made with orange juice & Blue Moon

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We wrap up our interview with Tai and talk about people having "spiritual" gifts and being able to choose how and when they use them. And maybe there's a bigger reason why "God" doesn't answer our prayers...and it's not because we're unworthy or are being punished.

You can find Tai online here:

• TikTok @taideconstructed
• www.taigoodwin.com

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We continue our discussion with Tai, and how our purpose and mission is to be the highest version of ourselves. 

Resources mentioned on the show:

• Messy Spirituality, by Mike Yaconelli

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"I'm talking to those people who are struggling, who've not gotten your questions answered, who when they've asked questions have been told to be quiet, who have suffered mistreatment, abuse, and all other kinds of horrible things in the name of church and the bible and god and gotten no relief. And I'm also talking to those of us who felt like they had to slice pieces of ourselves off to fit in a baptismal pool, but still feel broken, feeling rejected, feeling lost."

We speak with Tai Goodwin about being raised in the church, but finding her way "out" later in life. And just what it meant during meditation to hear the question, "What if we never saw you as anything other than whole?" 

You can find Tai here:

• YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@TaiGoodwin23

Resources mentioned:

• Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Nate delivers a brief state of the channel, including the departure of host, Mason. Stay tuned, because good things are ahead, even in the midst of change!

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Did you know?? The pagan order of worship includes 'greeters', prayer, song service, announcements, offering, sermon, post sermon activities (pastor-led prayer, altar call, more singing, the Lord's Supper, prayer for the sick, benediction). Sound familiar??

"Christianity did not destroy paganism...it adopted it." Will Durant, prominent historian

Resources mentioned:

• Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola 
• 13 month calendar

What we drank on the show:

• Banana Pudding Sipping Cream by Sugarlands Distilling
• Sonic Diet Dr. Pepper with Vanilla (Dear Sonic, you need to carry Dr. Pepper Zero!)

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"It doesn't bother me when people practice their faith. It's only when their practice negatively affects someone else that it's a problem."

We wrap up our interview with Robert, and discuss healing from trauma, anxiety, and periodic breakdowns. 

Want to contact Robert for freelance graphic design? [email protected]
Robert's YouTube channel: @SacredCowDiner

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We discuss how many passages in scripture aren't original and were copied from older texts, and how many seem to be out of alignment with what's considered right/wrong today by modern religion.

Resources mentioned:

• Tribes, by Seth Godin
• Messy Spirituality, by Mike Yaconelli

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We continue the conversation with Robert and discuss fundamentalism and the fact that it's found everywhere: work, home, politics, etc.

It draws a line in the sand that leads to division and violence, and a sense of "I'm better than you", and "I'm right and you're wrong".

Resources mentioned:

• Tribes, by Seth Godin

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