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We interview Robert Williams, who shares his long time experiences within the Apostolic church, and what ultimately led to his exodus.
Later, with the help of a therapist, he was able to identify the unrealized spiritual abuse that had occurred, and work to heal those traumas.
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We discuss chapters 1 & 2 of Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola.
Have you ever wondered why Christians do what they do for church every Sunday morning? Why do they “dress up” for church? Why does the pastor preach a sermon each week? Why do they have pews, steeples, and choirs?
Most of what Christians do in present-day churches is rooted, not in the New Testament, but in pagan culture and rituals developed long after the death of the apostles.
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In this first RP date night episode, Nate and Celeste introduce an impactful book they read around 15-20 years ago when they first exited the UPC Church.
Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola examines a multitude of Christian church practices that have been accepted as 'gospel' or 'from the bible', when in reality, they were adopted from paganism.
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We wrap up our discussion with Kali J Banks regarding awareness, and how once you broaden your awareness, then your interpretation of scripture is beyond just surface level. When you go within yourself, you unlock the keys to the 'mystery' of the bible.
So often we give power and reverence to a church building, but God is within the most sacred 'church' = our body. God is within us, within our form. We are a tool for divine work, and as such, we need to know our power.
Check out his book, Awareness is Evolution.
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What does it mean to forgive? What does it mean to love yourself?
We speak with Kali J Banks about his book and what started him on the path to awareness.
As within, so without.
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We wrap up our interview with Ron in this 3rd episode by talking politics, the 'biggest religion on the planet'.
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In this episode, Ron talks about growing up with feelings of not being accepted, or measuring up, and then refusing to tolerate those same feelings within the confines of religion. Nate shares that he believes true peace is found when you're able to just be who you are, and that begins with accepting yourself.
As Ron says, "I'm a little bit enlightenment, and a little bit 'go f*ck yourself.'"
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Ron talks about being raised Methodist as a kid, and also going to Catholic mass with his grandmother. He became spiritually curious as he grew older, and found out one of his buddy's father was a born-again Christian. They invited him to their church where he attended for a while. From there, he attended a trinitarian 'holiness' full gospel church until he was in his early 20s and decided to leave the church for a period of time.
After he relocated from NY to TX, he met a former Pentecostal woman in Austin and they started attending a UPC church in the area. He stayed there about 7 years, and while there, met a Hebraic/messianic teacher. They became good friends, and then left the UPC to start a small group meeting. But that wasn't all it was cracked up to be either....
Ron's cigar: JFR Lunatic 8"x80 ring
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Nate and Mason wrap up the last of this series by finishing the last of the 9 satanic statements written in the 1960s by Anton LeVey, while weaving in politics and (ex)evangelicalism.
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Mason finishes reading the list of sins found on the church of satan's website. Nate shares more about attending the local pagan market. And then they move on to the 9 satanic statements written in the 1960s by Anton LeVey.
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Welcome to Rettals' Pub, where spirituality is explored without the baggage of religion, and truth is something we chase with drink in hand. We talk science, the supernatural, and the big questions…