As America approaches its 250th anniversary, many political debates feel increasingly focused on personalities, parties, and division rather than principles. On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn is joined by Josh Lewis, host of the Saving Elephants podcast, to discuss how to bring principled thinking back to the center of American political life. Their conversation explores the role of classical conservatism, the importance of grounding political movements in ideas, and how citizens can balance coalition politics with a commitment to enduring principles. They also reflect on the long-term nature of political change and why hope and patience remain essential for the future of the American experiment.

Show notes:

• Saving Elephants: Defending Wonks with Nic Dunn (on Apple Podcasts)

Defending Ideas is a weekly podcast produced by Sutherland Institute. On this show, we are committed to renewing the principles of common sense conservatism, making you a better champion of sound ideas. Visit defendingideas.org.