On this episode of How To Really Run A City, we join Larry Platt, Kasim Reed and Michael Nutter as they sit down with Charles Blow, columnist for The New York Times and author of the 2021 book The Devil You Know: A Black Power Manifesto and last year’s companion HBO documentary, South to Black Power.

Blow makes the case for a type of new Black Power movement by calling for a Black migration to the South. The mayors and their guest dive deep into the risks run when politicians focus on philosophical debates over day-to-day issues like jobs and the economy.