As we get closer to 2025, Johnnie Putman and Steve King return with another show to prep you for the holiday! It’s a shorter show, but a great show nonetheless!

We catch up with Patrick Crispen, Director of Educational Technology at Keck School of Medicine of USC on the latest tech news and phone problems. We get the rundown on the Salt Typhoon cyberattack, who was targeted and how it could have been avoided. Patrick gives us some solid strategies and resources to brace for potential text and email hacks as the war for cyberspace rages on, plus more holiday shopping ideas.

We manage to cover some good morsels along the way with Sports Between the Sheets, a producer’s review of the latest Broadway hit Yippe Ki Yay, which you can find out more of on WGN’s Behind the Curtain podcast!

Tune in for all of that, plus a moment to remember the legacy of the late Dan Fabian, without whom we would not have Steve and Johnnie on the radio. Be sure to tune in to The Steve and Johnnie “Both Sides Now” blog for more!