Unfortunately, my computer decided to do an upgrade twenty minutes into my interview with Mr. Long.  We discussed becoming a writer, getting his hirst and second script assignments which he described as disasters. he and his partner got their footing and wrote classic as "Veggie Boyd" and "Woody Interruptus" (which introduces Herni).  The rest f the interview is here where he talked about not going to the last episode because Boston didn't care when he went to the 200th episode parade; feeling proud that America cared so much to say goodbye; Pig Sty; George & Leo and Bob Newhart not being able to smoke; the Cameo episode with Larry, Darryl and Darryl and Jere Burns; Sullivan & Sons - Brian Doyle-Murray wants a drive net instead of a trailer; starting to write comic political pieces, most American are in the center politically and don't like rules; Covid restrictions and vaccines; everything is failing; more people are writers than historians; unemployment hypocrisy; reporters became journalists with narratives; Congressmen and Senators are inherently corrupt; All in the Family; school choice and merit pay; schools having different missions and different standards; old fashioned note taking schools; parental rights on both sides; must need to learn basics first - then left or right ideology; hire efficiency experts; Sesame Street; hypocrisy of people who got rich off government contrats now hate government giving contracts