Robert Macfarlane, whose latest book is "Ghostways: Two Journeys in Unquiet Places," written in collaboration with artist Stanley Donwood and writer Dan Richards, is interviewed by host Richard Wolinsky.

This short book examines two strange areas in England, Orford Ness, a spit of sand in the southeast of England, not far from Cambridge, which was used as a weapons testing site in the Cold War, and the holloways of Dorset, strange paths beaten over centuries, and often covered over by trees, almost as caves.

In this interview, recorded December 8, 2020, he talks about the book, both places in England, how the pandemic has affected his life, and how climate change is affected by the shutdown.

The author of several books, including "Underland," "Mountains of the Mind" and "The Old Ways," Robert Macfarlane teaches at Cambridge University.

Front photo: The Holloways.

Below photo: Orford Ness