Dan and Shawn are joined by Carolina Hurricanes head coach Rod Brind'Amour (25:41). He talks about the art of shutting down games, the high powered offenses of the Florida Panthers and Toronto Maple Leafs, the state of the Hurricanes heading into the Playoffs, the stabilizing force that Freddie Andersen has been for the Canes and how he defines the qualities that the winner of the Hart Trophy should exhibit.  The guys start the episode talking about whether the Panthers, Maple Leafs and Oilers can be successful in the playoffs with their style of play and the importance of being able to shut down games come playoff time and they compare Connor McDavid and Auston Matthews, wondering if Matthews is being overlooked as the best player in the NHL. They close out the episode talking about Roman Josi's chances of winning the Hart Trophy, answer a mailbag question on the Norris Trophy race and reflect on Ryan Getzlaf's retirement announcement.