We’re joined by the incredible Cassie Hart — author, editor, mentor, and full-time human doing her best — for a candid conversation about surviving gestures broadly the world. We talk burnout, creativity, feminine rage, and the practical tools Cassie uses to keep making art in a pressure cooker life.
Also: ADHD hacks, writing as therapy, journaling as life-editing, why it’s okay to be angry, and the healing power of a hot cross bun.
⏱️ Run notes:
• Bakery smackdown: Wellington’s bun-based battle begins
• How Guild Wars 2 made us mates
• Writing with ADHD (and the truth about handwriting vs. typing)
• Feminine rage and writing dark joy
• Cassie’s Burnout Survival Kit™
• Journaling as introspection (and self-editing your own life)
• The emotional truth behind “I’m fine”
• On parenting, truth-telling, and how to stop lying to yourself
• Final thoughts: hope through small steps
🔧 Cassie’s Burnout Survival Kit
• Walks (without earbuds – just vibes)
• Audiobooks + mobile games
• Knitting and tactile fidgeting
• Playlists for different creative moods
• Writing projects with zero expectations
📚 Mentioned in This Episode
• Cassie’s Substack: Chronically Burnt Out (But Hopeful)
• Her book: In the Spirit (Kotahi Bay)
• Past interviews: takahē interview | early video chat
• Writing tool: ForTheWords
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