Rooted: A Podcast About Nature & Wellbeing

What if nature could help us let go of old patterns, embrace our imperfections, and reconnect with who we really are?

In this episode of Rooted, I'm joined by Dr. Charlton Hall, a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in mindfulness-based ecotherapy, to explore how nature can support emotional healing, self-discovery, and personal growth.

Charlton shares how his lifelong relationship with nature shaped his approach to therapy and explains why ecotherapy is much more than simply taking therapy outdoors. We talk about the role of mindfulness, the power of nature as metaphor, and how the changing seasons can help us better understand the cycles of our own lives.

Our conversation takes us into some fascinating territory. What can a tree teach us about perfection? How might animals help us better understand ourselves? And what happens when we shift from constantly doing and problem-solving to simply being present? We also explore how our disconnection from the natural world may be influencing our relationships with ourselves, each other, and the planet.

Throughout our conversation, we return to a powerful reminder: We are not separate from nature. We are part of it. And perhaps by paying closer attention to the natural world, we can learn to extend ourselves a little more grace, embrace change, and reconnect with our true selves.

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Mindfulness-Based Ecotherapy

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Walk with SMB: Pleasures of Presence

What does it mean to stay present with what we're feeling, especially when life is difficult?

In the span of three weekends, I lost my dog, a longtime friend, and my father. As I've been navigating grief, I've found myself returning to a simple nature connection practice called Pleasures of Presence.

I first encountered this practice during my forest therapy guide training with the Association of Nature and Forest Therapy Guides and Programs. It invites us to slow down and notice the world through our senses, our bodies, and our hearts.

In this solo episode of Rooted, I share a guided version of the practice that has been helping me find my way back to center.

While grief brought me back to it, Pleasures of Presence isn't only for difficult times. It's an invitation to reconnect with our own human nature through our relationship with the rest of nature.

Our senses remind us that we're not separate from the world around us. We are part of it.

You don't need to be in a forest or even outdoors to participate. Wherever you are is a good place to begin.

Come as you are. Nothing needs to change, and nothing needs to be fixed.

Just an opportunity to notice what it's like to be here, right now.

Resources

Association of Nature and Forest Therapy Guides and Programs

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Rooted: A Podcast About Nature & Wellbeing

What might we discover if we stopped trying to accomplish something every time we stepped outside and simply paid attention?

In this episode of Rooted, I'm joined by Susan Joachim, president and founding member of the International Nature and Forest Therapy Alliance (INFTA), to explore forest therapy and the growing understanding of nature's role in human health and wellbeing.

Susan shares her journey from a childhood spent outdoors in Sri Lanka, through the upheaval of civil war, to rediscovering a sense of freedom and connection in the Australian wilderness. We talk about the experience that changed how she approached time in nature, the science of attention restoration, and what actually happens during a guided forest therapy walk.

Our conversation also raises bigger questions about modern life. How does spending so much of our time indoors and connected to screens influence our wellbeing? And what would it look like to treat access to nature as an essential part of public health?

Throughout our conversation, we return to a simple but meaningful idea: We protect what we love. And perhaps learning to love the natural world begins with slowing down enough to notice it.

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International Nature and Forest Therapy Alliance: https://infta.net

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Autumn is a season of change. Leaves fall, the light shifts, and the natural world reminds us that letting go is part of life. But what does it mean to let go of someone or something we love while holding on to what they gave us?

After losing two dear friends in recent weeks, Susan Morgan Bailey reflects on grief, the changing seasons, and the importance of making space for both sadness and gratitude.

In this special episode of ROOTED, Susan offers a gentle guided imagery experience inspired by autumn. Together, we'll settle into the rhythms of nature, imagine a quiet gathering around a fire, and reflect on the people, animals, places, and experiences that have shaped our lives.

Through the imagery of a flame passed from one log to another, we're invited to consider what remains with us after loss. What gifts have we received? What have we learned through loving? And what might we choose to carry forward?

This is an invitation to slow down, remember, and make room for grief and the pleasures of being alive.

A gentle note: This practice includes reflection on loss and grief. Please move at your own pace, especially if your loss is recent. Listen in a comfortable, safe place, not while driving.

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Resources

If you're experiencing overwhelming grief or emotional distress, consider reaching out to someone you trust. In the United States, you can call or text 988 for support.

What happens when we begin to think about access to nature not simply as something that's nice to have, but as part of creating environments that support human wellbeing?

In this conversation, I sit down with Amy Wagenfeld and Daniel Winterbottom, co-authors of Therapeutic Gardens: Design for Healing Spaces, to explore what decades of work at the intersection of nature, health, and design have taught them about the spaces we create.

Amy brings the perspective of occupational therapy and therapeutic design, while Daniel is a landscape architect whose work includes trauma-informed design. Together, we explore what actually makes a garden therapeutic—and why the answer depends so much on the people who will use it.

Our conversation takes us from hospitals and dementia care to spaces designed for veterans experiencing PTSD and correctional environments, where access to nature can support rehabilitation, connection, and community.

We also explore the importance of choice and inclusion: how seemingly small design decisions can affect whether someone feels welcomed into a space, how sensory experiences can support or overwhelm us, and what happens when illness, disability, or incarceration limits our ability to make choices about our surroundings.

Throughout the conversation, we return to a larger question: What might our homes, neighborhoods, healthcare settings, and other shared spaces look like if we more intentionally considered our need for nature—and made that connection accessible to more people?

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Amy Wagenfeld | Design

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Daniel Winterbottom — University of Washington

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What happens when finding our way back to nature also becomes a way of finding our way back to ourselves?

In this conversation, I sit down with Heath Armstrong—artist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Rage Create—to explore the role nature has played in a life shaped by recovery, creativity, adventure, family, and a willingness to follow some unexpected paths.

Heath's relationship with nature has been a through-line in his journey from addiction and disconnection to traveling and living in a van, climbing mountains, building creative businesses, becoming a father, and eventually putting down roots with his family on a homestead in the mountains of North Carolina.

Together, we explore what happens when we loosen our grip on control, the stories and conditioning we accumulate, and what nature can teach us about ourselves. Heath shares a powerful experience on Mount Rainier that changed him, as well as the ways intuition, synchronicity, and creativity have shaped his understanding of his relationship with the natural world.

We also talk about connection—not only with nature, but with one another—and what Heath discovered about the importance of community after years spent moving through wild places.

Throughout the conversation, one idea continues to surface: perhaps reconnecting with nature isn't about finding something outside ourselves, but remembering that we were never separate from it in the first place.

If you've ever wondered what might change when we begin to see ourselves as part of nature rather than apart from it, this conversation offers an expansive and sometimes unexpected place to explore that question.

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Website: heatharmstrong.com

Rage Create: ragecreate.com

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What if thriving doesn't look the same in every season?

As the fall equinox marks the transition from summer into fall, I've been noticing what's changing outside my window—and what those changes stir in me. The days are getting shorter. Flowers are fading. Leaves are beginning to change. Some things are reaching the end of their lives.

And yet, nature isn't failing. Nature is cycling.

In this Sit with SMB episode, I explore what the changing seasons might show us about our own rhythms of activity, transition, rest, and growth. Summer's abundance and outward energy look a lot like the qualities our culture tends to celebrate: productivity, achievement, expansion, visible progress. But nature doesn't remain in summer mode all year long.

Fall begins a movement toward rest. The living world releases, conserves, simplifies, and responds to changing conditions. Winter brings dormancy and rest, but also gestation—life continuing in ways we may not be able to see.

I reflect on my own tendency to keep going, even when my body or circumstances are asking for something different, and on what I'm learning from experimenting with doing less and allowing more space into my life.

Perhaps thriving isn't about maintaining the same pace through every season. Perhaps it's about becoming more attentive to the conditions we're actually living in—both in the natural world and in the seasons of our own lives.

As we move into fall, I'm sitting with a question:

What changes when we stop asking this season to be something other than what it is?

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Website: rootedsoulliving.com/rooted-podcast

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/susanmorganbailey

What if human connection isn't simply good for us, but essential to how we're designed to live?

Susan has long said that social support is life support. In this conversation with Pete Bombaci, founder of GenWell, that belief becomes an exploration of social health, belonging, and what happens when we become more intentional about creating connection in our lives.

Pete shares why he founded GenWell and the growing body of evidence showing that our relationships influence our mental and physical health, happiness, resilience, and longevity. He and Susan explore some of the forces that have quietly made modern life more isolating—from bigger homes and remote work to digital technology and the convenience of never having to leave our front doors.

But this isn't simply a conversation about loneliness. It's about what we can do.

Pete offers a refreshingly accessible approach: talk to a stranger. Reach out to an old friend. Create opportunities to gather. Put down the phone. Be willing to go first.

And through the lens of Rooted, another question emerges. Nature is built on relationship and interdependence; healthy ecosystems don't thrive in isolation. If humans are nature, what might that remind us about our own need for one another?

Perhaps connection isn't something extra we add to a healthy life. Perhaps it is one of the conditions that makes a healthy life possible.

• GenWell
• GenWell Weekend
• Talk to a Stranger Week
• Book - The Correspondent by Virginia Evans
• Book - Theo of Golden by Allen Levi
• Research by Dr. Gillian Sandstrom and Dr. Nicholas Epley

Pete Bombaci is the founder of GenWell, a social health organization working to educate, empower, and catalyze people around the importance of face-to-face social connection.

Website: GenWell.ca

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petebombaci/

Continue the conversation with Susan Morgan Bailey and explore more from ROOTED: A Podcast About Nature & Wellbeing.

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What happens when we stop trying so hard to arrive?

Last May, I walked the English Way of the Camino de Santiago—about 73 miles across northern Spain. I've shared one part of that story before: on day three, after the noise in my head finally began to quiet, I had the realization that eventually became the seed of ROOTED: This is where I belong.

But there was more to that walk.

There were three women who became unexpected companions and showed me something about moving through life without rushing. There were feathers that appeared in my path each day, a very unsubtle snail when I desperately wanted a sign, and a bird that seemed to reinforce the message: slow down. And there was a word I kept encountering along the way—volar, Spanish for "to fly"—that eventually found a permanent place on my wrist.

Now, as I prepare to return to the Camino and walk part of the Portuguese Way, I'm thinking about that experience differently.

This time, I'm not walking all the way to Santiago. I'm not organizing the journey around reaching the cathedral at the end. I'm walking eight days simply to walk—to be outside, to carry less, and to see what happens when I give the slowing down a little more time.

Maybe that is part of what it means to walk through life as a pilgrim: to loosen our grip on the destination, pay attention to what appears along the way, and trust that sometimes the path gives us something different from what we planned—but closer to what we needed.

Buen Camino. Connect with Susan: Website: https://www.rootedsoulliving.com/rooted-podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanmbailey/

What if some of our struggles with workplace wellbeing aren't really about individuals at all—but about the systems we've created around them?

My guest today is my friend Elizabeth Bachrad, a population health practitioner whose work explores the relationship between work and health, and the policies, practices and systems that shape whether people are able to thrive at work and beyond it.

Our conversation began with an idea Elizabeth had been thinking about: what it might mean for organizations to move from "ego systems"—organized largely around their own performance, efficiency and value—to ecosystems that recognize their interdependence with employees, communities, society and the natural world.

From there, we explored what changes when we begin to see organizations less as machines to control and optimize and more as living systems.

We talked about the difference between providing people with wellbeing resources and creating conditions that actually support wellbeing. We explored resilience, worker voice, human sustainability, leadership as stewardship, and why an ecosystem isn't necessarily a healthy ecosystem.

And we kept returning to the relationships between people and the systems they inhabit.

Perhaps the question isn't only how we help individuals become healthier or more resilient. Perhaps we also need to ask whether the systems around them are healthy—and what conditions might allow the whole system to thrive.

Impact Management Platform A collaborative resource for organizations working to manage their impacts on people and the planet. https://impactmanagementplatform.org/

B Corp Certified B Corporations are businesses that meet B Lab's standards for social and environmental performance, accountability and transparency. https://www.bcorporation.net/

Benefit Corporations / Public Benefit Corporations A legal corporate structure designed to embed consideration of stakeholders—not only shareholders—into company governance. Terminology and legal requirements vary by jurisdiction. https://usca.bcorporation.net/benefit-corporation/

LinkedIn: Elizabeth Bachrad

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