In this episode, recorded in November at the National Meeting for ASLA, I sit down with Daniel Tal, Author of two books on using sketchup in design. He currently runs a 3D studio for a multidisciplinary firm in Denver. I originally met Daniel at an ASLA National Meeting several years ago while I was doing freelance 3D graphics. In this episode we talked about trends in 3D modeling, Realism vs. style, BIM's role in the future of design, and thinking in three dimensions.