Look at us! Our first guest! Zine Club Chicago producer Cynthia E. Hanifin introduced us to each other via South Side Zine Fest, so of course she's our first interviewee! She is also an organizer for South Side Zine Fest, the founder of the South Side Zine Library and other very interesting things. 

We talked to her about interacting with the world through a  DIY lens, accessibility, community, connection, creativity, and the overlap between her work as an arts organizer and a social worker. And a whole lot more, including using Cheez-It boxes for zine holders and a big zine fest announcement.

Links!

Cynthia's stuff:

zineclubchicago.com

@zineclubchicago

@exilefromguyville

Keidra's stuff:

instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz's stuff:

instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com

Media overview! This week we talk about what we what we loved in 2025, what we're enjoying now, and what we're looking forward to in 2026, all done courtesy of our eternal quest for  connection. Topics covered: the relief of recognition and weirdly long web urls/email addresses/band names/album names/people names/lists, you get the idea.

We said we'd post this stuff in the links, so here we go!:

Portalmania and After World by Debbie Urbanski

novels by R. F. Kuang

Heated Rivalry + Game Changers Book Series by Rachel Reid

The Woman in the Purple Skirt A Novel  by Natsuko Imamura

Liz's CHIRP Top 10 for 2025 & radio show

One Song Podcast

World Clique by Deee-Lite

Infinite Games by Consumables

ATM : BODEGA AT THIS MOMENT Podcast

It's A Beautiful Place by Water From Your Eyes

THE FUTURE IS HERE AND EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED by The Armed

Poet | Artist! by SHINee

Imperial f.f.r.r. by Unrest

The Long Arm Stapler Podcast! Episode with Keidra here! Episode with Liz here!

Chicagozinefest.org

What are you listening to/reading RIGHT NOW? Drop us a line at [email protected] and we'll talk about it on the show.

us:

Keidra: instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz: instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com

Looking at this on Apple Podcasts and want to just click on hyperlinks? Go to our Podbean site to click on this episode at https://roughdraftwithkeidraandliz.podbean.com. 

Happy new year! In this episode we talk about our resolutions for 2026!

Topics included but not limited to: Art as focus vs art as side quest. Deluxe finished product vs just learning the thing. Lack of ambition as motivator for learning a skill. Admitting you’re terrified ALL THE TIME. A call to pay us to pet your animals. Being “forced to live my dream.” Chicago’s cultural wealth. Learning to play the bass. Figuring out how to just make the hula hoop go around and around. Midlife career change. Being a nag for other people’s resting.

We said we post this info, so here it is:

Keidra has 3 new zines!

Liz is gonna be at this thing!

Tell us your new year’s resolutions! Drop us a line at [email protected] and we'll talk about it on the show.

Please like, subscribe, tell people and all that jazz.

us:

Keidra: instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz: instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + https://chirpradio.org/dj/13237

Sometimes our projects get put on hold or abandoned entirely. Sometimes they're gone forever and other times we revisit them when the the time is right. We talk about why this happens and what circumstances need to be right for picking a project back up.

incidental subtopics broached: leaning into your hyperfocus, accountability buddy vs accountability sergeant, not being into the thing but being into someone else being into the thing, Joshua James Amberson (Broken Paper Airplane), Rob Drew (Unspooled), Will Wheaton (Still Just a Geek), the short-lived print version of The Pitchfork Review, Mortified, remixing your own ideas, We’ll Never Have Paris zine, Bitch Magazine, beta readers.

What projects have you abandoned? And why? Drop us a line at [email protected] and we'll give it a shout out on the show.

us:

Keidra: instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz: instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + https://chirpradio.org/dj/13237

Creative collaborations can be a different animal than when you work on something by yourself. Creating projects together can inspire great art, strengthen relationships, and even hold you accountable to bringing a project to fruition. In this episode, we talk about what needs to be in place to create that type of connection and what we've learned personally from these experiences.

Subtopics broached: The A-Team, the difference between collaborator and contributor, getting the heist done, do-it-yourself vs do-it-myself, renting a hotel room and emptying out the mini-bar just to get a thing done

What projects do you do solo and which do you do with other people? Drop us a line at [email protected] and we'll give it a shout out on the show.

Check it out! We have our own URL now: roughdraftwithkeidraandliz.com 

us:

Keidra: instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz: instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + https://chirpradio.org/dj/13237

Sometimes it's shocking that we get anything done. From small projects to bigger projects, from solo work to collaborations, in this episode we talk about the challenges that perfectionism presents us and how we grunt our way through sustainably.

How do struggle with perfectionism? Any tips for tackling it in your projects? Drop us a line at [email protected] and we'll give it a shout out on the show.

us:

Keidra: instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz: instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + https://chirpradio.org/dj/13237

Keidra and Liz have a lot to say about karaoke! Pet peeves, karaoke philosophy, theories, what we're willing to sit through (and not willing to sit through) and more!

Stuff we mentioned:

Pop Up Karaoke

Rory Lake's Karaoke Dreams

KaraFun (the app, though here's a link to the website)

us:

Keidra: instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz: instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + https://chirpradio.org/dj/13237

On this semi-processed podcast about how we process culture by two zinesters based in Chicago, we talk about getting zine projects (and honestly, everything else) started. Also included: how much getting started can suck, WHICH YOU ARE ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT, and what happens in confronting obstacles.  

The last episode was really episode #4 because #3 was 2 parts. So now it's #5. Yeah we're weirdos! Just go with it!

Said we'd post this stuff!:

Finch is the app Keidra says she uses to stay on task.

us:

Keidra: instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz: instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + https://chirpradio.org/dj/13237

Email us your thoughts! [email protected]

It's part 2 of a conversation that started about fan discourse and what happens when an artist departs from an expected style. We also talk about what it means to sell out, plus pontificate about the state of the reigning empire monoculture. BUT IT'S ALSO LIKE WEIRDLY ENTERTAINING?! We think so anyway.

 (Ok so maybe this is really episode #4!)

Said we'd post this stuff!:

Keidra:

instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz:

instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + https://chirpradio.org/dj/13237

Email us your thoughts! [email protected]

It's part 1 of conversation we decided to split into 2 parts! In this episode, we use the discourse surrounding the new Taylor Swift album as a jumping off point to talk about the artistic contracts between artist and fan, what happens when an artist departs from an expected style, our listening habits and more.

Said we'd post this stuff!:

Bodies On the Page 2 on Sat 10/18!

Keidra:

instagram.com/keidrachaney + instagram.com/wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social

Liz:

instagram.com/caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + https://chirpradio.org/dj/13237

Email us your thoughts on zines this summer or share info about your zines: [email protected]

Exciting developments! We're now up on not just Apple podcasts but also Spotify!