Coco Das, one of the editors of RefuseFascism.org interviews Ruth Ben-Ghiat, historian of fascism, who tweeted on May 21st: "When do you know authoritarian corruption has advanced to a new stage? When they don’t hide it. Trump’s been frank: if it might lose me the election, it cannot be allowed."

Since the interview, an extraordinarily broad and diverse movement against police murder has erupted across the country, with incredible repression and brutality inflicted against protesters in DC and other major cities - Refuse Fascism has been out there working to join the demand for justice with the need to drive out this fascist regime.

Support the movement to drive out the Trump/Pence regime: Venmo @Refuse-Fascism or donate.refusefascism.org

Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.