Ryan Falor, director of AV/ADAS data at GM, and Jason Ekelmann, manager of the advanced vehicle integration team at GM, join Automotive News reporter Lindsay VanHulle on the “Shift” podcast to talk about how the automaker is leveraging its shuttered Cruise robotaxi venture and Super Cruise hands-free driver-assist technology to build an eyes-off system for 2028.

They also explain why GM is taking a nationwide testing approach and using manual data collection, simulation and supervised driving to build and evaluate test the systems.