Joanna and Andy welcome Ryan Kriger — former Vermont and FTC privacy attorney, now Deputy Chief of Privacy at the Massachusetts AG's office — for a deep dive into one of the defining issues of our digital age. Ryan breaks down what data brokers actually are, why HIPAA doesn't protect as much of your health data as you think, how states like Vermont are stepping up where the federal government won't, and what makes Vermont's approach genuinely different.

In the opener: the U.S. Secretary of Education's surprise Essex school visit (and the walkout it inspired), the filing deadline fallout, last-minute legislative exits, and the education funding bill that's not quite the rollback it's being sold as and Ryan raids his sprinkle cabinet. You will want to watch the video.