In this episode, you'll hear two never-before-published interviews. One is with the late Dallas Hulley and the other is with Lisa's mother, the late Joanne Young. I learn about these recordings when I scratch an itch I've had for a while now. It's been reported that Lisa sent Dallas a text message with the words 'Come Get Me. They won't let me leave.' I've come to believe it's most likely that the text never happened.

Apologies. These two phone recordings are of poor audio quality. But given that both of the subjects are now deceased, I believe it is important to air the tape.

Huge thanks to reporter Verity Stevenson. Verity recorded the interviews with Joanne and Dallas and had the good sense to hang on to them for almost a decade. More than that, Verity had the generous spirit and kind heart to share them with me and with you. 🙏

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