Aidan O'Brien and Joseph O'Brien join Johnny Ward and Brendan Duke on the phone to talk about the cessation of racing in Ireland, the latest situation in their own stables and the effect of Covid-19 on their own families and staff. There's plenty of more talk from our socially-distancing duo too as they look at ante-post options for next year's Cheltenham Festival, while jockey David Mullins joins us for our 'Joy Of Six' Q&A.