In this episode we're talking about productivity in the NHS, as it's a big focus of debate  at present and a headline priority.

We know this push to add value is taking place amid mounting financial pressures, NHS Providers’ latest report Providers Deliver: achieving value for money showcases examples where trusts – including hospitals, mental health, community and ambulance services – are finding new ways to provide better care and add value for money.

Host Adam Brimelow talks to Thea Stein, chief executive at the Nuffield Trust, Saffron Cordery, deputy chief executive at NHS Providers and our policy advisor for finance, Sandy Cook.