Join us, Elisa and Crystal, as we chat about whether we should care about the term 'New View' in the safety context. We chat about what we fundamentally believe safety is about, and how being precious or negative can cost us in the long run in terms of progression.

Warning: There is a rant about social media Trolls contained in this podcast! It's so ranty but SO valid!

Fancy watching the pod, crack on: https://youtu.be/od7HI4r6nEs