On Episode 17, Jeff and I sit down and discuss our lovely Zoom backgrounds.

Well his. I record from my shitty basement office that I’ve been reduced to.

Thanks, Ash. Thanks, Charlie.

Anyway. In this episode, we ramble and chat mostly about three things.

1) The 800lb gorilla. We’re still “quarantined” and it’s hard to not discuss it a little bit.

2) The 200lb gorilla. The namesake of this episode. How un-fucking-reliable I had become as the grips of alcoholism got tighter and tighter.

3) 100lb baby gorilla. Please pray for my cousin. She’s been through so fucking much in three or four lifetimes, let alone one. She’s one of my greatest inspirations when it comes to the whole faith-hope-love game and has helped me in my own grief journey more than she could ever possibly know.

I don’t know why I kept adding gorillas. They just kind of rolled off the tongue and I write show notes like I talk.

And 8 + 2 + 1 = 11.

And I AM number 11.

I hope you all had a wonderful Easter Sunday!

He is risen!

There is reason for hope! Because, “God does his best work when it’s dark!”

Let us pray.

Chris Pondoff