This ain’t your tidy little self-help podcast. This is a molotov cocktail of truth, trauma, healing, heartbreak, and a whole lotta swearing. We’re cracking open some of the rawest, realest, and most *fuck-it-let’s-go-there* moments from Season Two. If you're not ready to get honest, bounce now.

First up, Megan Gehrs and Bree Badgley are back after five years. These two come in hot—talking relapses, divorces, cookie cakes, sober birthdays, and how to sit in self-pity without drowning in it. Megan shares what it’s like staying sober with a fully stocked liquor cabinet in the house. Bree opens up about blackouts, bruises, and holding her newborn niece in the hospital while still swollen from the night before. This ain’t Instagram recovery—it’s the messy, beautiful kind.

Then Christina Preston drops a fucking hammer: kidnapped, trafficked, and held in a hotel room with a pistol on the console. She survived it. Barely. And now she’s helping women claw their way back from the same hell she escaped. This is not a movie. This is real. And it happens down the damn street.

Kurt Garner swings through next—radio host, tequila junkie turned sober globetrotter. From Mexican strip clubs with angry bouncers to solo Valentine’s Day JT concerts in Chicago, he proves life doesn’t end when the bottle does. His turning point? A 10 a.m. tequila binge after a failed date that led to pouring out the bottle and walking toward something better.

Then we go deep with Sean Weiss—yeah, *that* Sean Weiss. Goldberg from *The Mighty Ducks*. You’ve seen the mugshots. But this dude has lived through shit most people wouldn’t survive. $20K gone in three months. Dope. Shoplifting. Using a needle he *knew* was HIV-positive because detox hurt more than death. This conversation isn’t for the faint of heart—but it’s for the ones still out there thinking there’s no way back.

And finally, Rafe Williams takes the mic. Stand-up comic, radio guy, and full-time truth-teller. He cracks jokes about Southern Illinois, grandma’s Doral cartons, and Paducah gas station cigarettes—but make no mistake, he’s lived it. The rooms, the relapses, the rollercoaster of finding peace in a loud-ass world. He gets honest about masculinity, depression, and why vulnerability is a hell of a lot scarier than any open mic.

This one’s for anyone who’s tired of hiding. You don’t have to pretend anymore. Just press play.

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction to Honest Conversations

02:08 Returning to Recovery: Megan Gehrs and Bree Badgley

05:01 Personal Struggles: Divorce and Alcoholism

12:15 The Impact of Alcohol on Relationships

19:52 Mental Health: Anxiety and Depression

25:35 The Journey of Healing and Community Support

26:03 Understanding Human Trafficking and Addiction

35:00 Finding Redemption and New Beginnings

40:41 The Wild Night Out in Mexico

45:43 Rediscovering Life Without Alcohol

51:31 Finding Joy in Sobriety

56:14 The Cost of Addiction

01:01:05 The Importance of Family in Recovery

01:06:15 The Journey of Recovery and Transformation

01:20:13 Reflections on Home and Change

01:23:14 Growing Up in Small Towns: A Unique Perspective

01:26:00 The Struggles of Vulnerability and Masculinity

01:29:18 The Battle with Addiction: A Personal Journey

01:31:07 The Impact of Sobriety on Relationships

01:33:02 The Downfall of a Sports Star: Addiction and Consequences

01:40:13 Finding Humility in Recovery

01:45:59 The Role of Faith in Overcoming Addiction

01:47:50 Understanding Identity and Acceptance

01:59:29 Gratitude for Honest Conversations

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Who this episode is for:
- Parents who’ve lost a child and are still standing somehow
- Anyone who’s ever loved an addict and didn’t know how to help
- Folks who’ve been burned by shady recovery programs
- Those struggling with meth, depression, or both
- Anyone trying to make meaning from unimaginable grief
- And anyone who’s ever made a mess of their life and lived to tell the tale

This one’s not for the faint of heart.

Shelly Viverito joins the Pondoff’s Anonymous crew to tell a story no parent should ever have to tell — the rise, fall, and redemption of her son Nick, who battled brutal addiction, got clean, rebuilt his life, and then was ripped away by a random, deadly brain bleed. He beat meth. He beat depression. And he still died at 39.

This is a mother’s war story. From locking her door at night during his meth psychosis… to getting a tattoo of his sobriety date… to launching a foundation in his name that now funds sober living for other young men fighting for their lives.

Nick Wilson may be gone, but his light — and his pit bull Jax — continue to move mountains through Shelly’s advocacy, fundraising, and raw honesty.

Learn more:
💥 The Nick Wilson Foundation: https://www.thenickwilsonfoundation.org
💥 Learn to Live Recovery: https://learntoliverecovery.com
💥 Harris House: https://www.harrishouse.org

Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to Recovery and Support
02:51 Navigating Personal Stories and Backgrounds
12:51 The Journey of Addiction and Recovery
26:19 Understanding the Impact of Addiction on Families
27:22 The Cost of Recovery Programs
28:44 The Challenges of Interventions
30:34 The Impact of Hope in Recovery
32:18 Navigating Relapse and Recovery
37:30 Finding Support in Recovery Programs
40:10 The Role of Family in Recovery
43:55 The Journey to Independence
53:28 Tragedy and Loss in Recovery
56:35 The Gift of Life: Organ Donation and Its Impact
57:57 Navigating Grief: A Mother's Journey
01:00:02 Finding Purpose Through Pain: Advocacy and Speaking Out
01:02:57 Creating a Legacy: The Nick Wilson Foundation
01:07:34 Community and Connection: The Power of Support Groups
01:12:57 Healing Through Fun: The Importance of Joy in Grief
01:22:33 Creating Community and Support
01:25:06 The Power of Shared Experiences
01:29:50 Fundraising and Community Events
01:31:11 The Importance of Mental Health Awareness
01:34:40 Finding Hope in Tragedy
01:39:04 Celebrating Life and Connection

Sponsored by:
👉 McKelvey Insurance: https://www.mckelveyins.com
👉 LightSource Psychotherapy: https://findyourlightsource.com

Welcome to the unfiltered chaos of Pondoff’s Anonymous, where recovery meets real life with no bleep button. This week, it’s a full‑house f*ck‑around session with Chris, Jeff, Zoe, and special guest Kenny “Iggy” Strode — the St. Louis radio legend with a sharp tongue, a broken filter, and a suspiciously high body count.

You want deep? We’ve got deep. You want weird? Strap the hell in.

Iggy drops stories from Bermuda beaches (where topless tourists get scolded by dudes in linen), explains how a freaky music review got him a nickname that’s lasted 50 years, and claims full credit for the BlueChew catchphrase that celebrities now scream into the void. Zoe brings warmth, humor, and grounded honesty — talking about music, recovery, and showing up with heart. Chris puts it best: it just means more having a strong female voice in the mix. Jeff and Chris unveil the upcoming Pondoff Anonymous Media Network and the new app that’ll put recovery, resources, and rogue banter in your damn pocket.

Also covered:
– How to apologize for Facebook ghosting live on‑air
– Why “I’d like that” is the worst line in any movie ever
– The theology of poop mirrors and peanut butter mishaps
– When grief, comedy, Jesus, and erectile dysfunction collide
– Singing for the Spirit, shaving your balls, and showing up anyway

📲 New app drops January
🎙️ Pondoff Anonymous Network launching with three weekly shows
💀 Recovery, mental health, addiction, grief, nudity, and boner jokes — all wrapped up in love and laughter

00:00 Introduction to Recovery and Community Support
05:52 The Importance of Mental Health and Therapy
12:06 Building a Podcast Network and Future Plans
14:52 The Role of Humor and Lightheartedness in Recovery
17:59 Reflections on Pets and Personal Growth
24:19 Cultural Norms and Nudity
25:30 Identity and Nicknames
26:42 High School Dynamics and Music
29:28 Relationships and Social Connections
31:10 Podcasting and Community Engagement
35:23 Mental Health and Recovery Advocacy
39:09 Personal Stories and Impact
42:56 Humor and Lighthearted Banter
47:18 Navigating Personal Challenges
49:10 Pet Peeves in Movies and TV Shows
50:57 The Art of Performance and Stage Presence
54:52 The Power of Authenticity in Sharing Stories
01:01:12 The Impact of Addiction and Recovery
01:07:01 The Importance of Community Support
01:15:46 Podcasting Insights and Personal Reflections
01:18:40 Navigating Mental Health and Social Work
01:21:31 Community Building and Support Systems
01:26:09 Creative Ventures and Future Aspirations
01:32:33 Personal Stories and Connections
01:38:26 Exploring Love and Connection
01:39:05 Family Bonds and Shared Experiences
01:41:06 Navigating Life’s Challenges
01:42:01 Pet Peeves and Movie Critiques
01:43:34 The Role of Nudity in Film
01:45:32 Understanding the Adult Industry
01:49:41 The Complexity of Relationships
01:50:27 Empathy and Understanding in Recovery
01:52:00 The Importance of Female Voices
01:54:19 Grief and Loss in the Industry
01:56:34 The Impact of Online Interactions
01:58:44 Finding Peace Amidst Chaos

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Sponsored by:
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Who this episode is for:
- Anyone who’s ever been fired and thought maybe I am the problem
- People in recovery who still have a bottle whispering their name
- Anyone working a toxic job and trying to smile through it
- Foster parents or those considering the leap
- LGBTQ+ folks living under labels that don’t fit
- News junkies who wanna know what really goes down off-camera
- And of course, anyone who’s made a flaming, glorious mess of their life

Sponsored by:
🛡️ McKelvey Insurance
🧠 LightSource Psychotherapy

Anthony Slaughter — former TV weatherman, credentialed meteorologist, single dad, and walking miracle — pulls no punches in this unforgettable episode.

He talks about growing up in a Black-Portuguese family, losing his mom at age 7, and stepping up to adopt his twin nephews — babies born into chaos and addiction. And just when it seems the story can’t get heavier, it does.

This is the first time (that we know of, in long form anyway) Anthony publicly opens up — really opens up — about getting fired from KSDK.

One week he’s in a yearly review. The next? Walked out the door. Suddenly, managers had “concerns.” He was too goofy. Too confident. Too...himself.

He talks about the confusion, burnout, and identity crisis that came with getting dumped by a job he gave everything to. He saw coworkers vanish, leadership flail, and mediocrity rewarded.

Here’s where it gets real: Anthony was already in recovery. Already had whiskey in the rearview. That firing? Could’ve broken him. Almost did.

But this time… he didn’t.
He journaled. He lifted. He moved.
And out of the wreckage came peace.

Instead of spiraling, he cracked open.
Instead of drinking, he started dreaming again.
Instead of chasing ratings, he started living.

Now he’s building a YouTube channel. Selling weather shirts. Playing pickleball. And most importantly — telling the truth, finally, on his own terms.

Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction to Recovery and Coffee
08:01 The Emotional Connection to Weather
16:05 Life Changes and Family Dynamics
28:01 Navigating Foster Care Challenges
32:55 The Importance of Community Support
35:29 Understanding Developmental Delays
36:54 Therapy in Parenting
39:00 Personal Struggles with Addiction
42:04 Reflections on Life Choices
44:15 Impact of Trauma on Children
49:40 Lessons from Privilege
51:36 Rebellion in Parenting
55:19 Health Scares and Wake-Up Calls
59:30 The Non-Linear Path of Recovery
01:00:46 The Cost of Authenticity
01:02:51 Anthony spills the tea on KSDK
01:05:46 Challenges of News Ratings
01:08:54 Navigating Career Changes
01:12:08 Life Beyond News
01:14:55 Struggles of Media Management
01:18:02 Personal Growth and New Beginnings
01:24:21 Theater and Connection
01:27:07 Instincts and Self-Discovery
01:29:09 New Ventures and Creativity
01:31:04 Importance of Free Headspace
01:32:38 Alcohol and Personal Choices
01:40:13 Substances and Coping
01:43:00 Identity and Acceptance
01:49:06 Self-Acceptance
01:51:30 Breaking Religious Constraints
01:54:10 Biblical Misinterpretations
01:57:10 Journey to Self-Acceptance
02:04:02 Love and Community
02:10:03 Supporting Foster Youth
02:16:07 Culinary Passions
02:21:58 Power of Transformation

Follow Anthony Slaughter
📸 Instagram: @theweatherguru
📘 Facebook: facebook.com/WthrmnSlaughter
▶️ YouTube: youtube.com/@wthrmnslaughter
👕 Merch: skywx.myshopify.com

Support the Aralean Brown Older Youth Readiness Fund:
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• Anyone who’s ever tried to outrun their demons with a six-pack and a Stratocaster.
• Those who believe pain is the price of creativity.
• Anyone who's fallen down the rabbit hole of booze, bar tabs, and backstage passes.
• Recovering musicians, sober-curious punks, and people who've hit rock bottom with a guitar in hand.
• People who don’t believe in rock bottom—until they slam into it face first.
• And especially: anyone who thinks addiction is somebody else’s problem.

Matt Pryor, frontman of The Get Up Kids, joins the Pondoff’s Anonymous crew and brings the fucking heat. From teenage Alateen meetings to tour bus whiskey benders, Pryor lays it all out—no filter, no fluff. This is the raw-ass story of a man who went from punk rock poster boy to broken, bedbound, and ready to die… before clawing his way out and writing a brutally honest record about the whole damn mess.

Chris, Jeff, and Zoe dig deep with Pryor into the romanticized chaos of the music industry, the quiet hell of performing for thousands while dead inside, and what it takes to rebuild your soul from the inside out. We get real about diabetes, depression, spiritual recovery, and the hot mess that is AA vs. Dharma vs. “whatever keeps you alive and growing.”

Also on deck:

• The shittiest non-alcoholic beers of the '90s
• Whether deep dish pizza is a valid hangover cure (spoiler: no)
• Detoxing with a diabetic’s nightmare hospital staff
• Satanic recovery groups and why they might be your jam
• Wrestling, wrestling, and more goddamn wrestling
• Touring Europe sober (and terrified)
• And the raw fucking truth about hitting a stage clean for the first time in decades

Pryor’s not selling redemption stories or tidy endings. He’s here to tell the truth: recovery is weird, hard, slow—and fucking worth it.

• 00:00 Introduction to Recovery and Coffee
• 02:59 The Journey of Matt Pryor: From Music to Recovery
• 06:08 The Impact of Addiction on Lives and Music
• 08:46 Navigating the Music Scene: Drinking and Creativity
• 11:56 Romanticizing Addiction in the Music Industry
• 14:54 Finding Creativity Beyond Substance Use
• 18:00 The Shift in Music Culture: Sober-Friendly Spaces
• 20:58 Personal Reflections on Recovery and Creativity
• 23:55 Defining Success in the Music Industry
• 31:07 The Evolution of Passion in Music
• 32:46 Navigating Early Success and Its Pitfalls
• 34:41 Hitting Rock Bottom: A Journey Through Darkness
• 36:10 The Road to Recovery: Detox and Sobriety
• 39:23 Relearning Life: Sober Living in a Party Environment
• 41:28 The Impact of Alcohol on Health and Relationships
• 44:31 Diabetes and Alcohol: A Dangerous Combination
• 48:31 Challenges in Medical Detox and Recovery
• 52:45 The Stigma of Addiction and Recovery
• 56:35 Finding Alternative Paths in Recovery
• 01:01:10 The Importance of Community in Recovery
• 01:06:00 Navigating Spirituality and Recovery
• 01:11:25 Understanding Human Nature and Addiction
• 01:13:15 The Creative Process: Writing and Recovery
• 01:20:00 Artistic Expression and Personal Interpretation

• Matt Pryor on Instagram: @mattpryorsongs
• Listen to Matt’s brutally honest record “The Dishonesty”: mattpryorsongs.substack.com
• Catch Matt live – Tour dates & tickets at: mattpryorandthesaltonsea.com

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Who this episode is for:
Those walking through the fire of addiction.
Anyone who grew up in chaos and called it normal.
Parents raising kids with trauma in their eyes.
Social workers hanging by a thread.
Therapists questioning if they’re helping or just absorbing.
And anyone who's ever face-planted in life, looked up, and thought, “Fuck. Now what?”

CHAZ FRANKE RETURNS: MENTOR, THERAPIST, TRAUMA SHERPA

We took last week off because of Thanksgiving—calm down, we're allowed to have lives. But to make it up to you, we're throwing it back to one of the most powerful convos ever recorded in the Pondoff’s Anonymous studio: Chris and the inimitable Chaz Franke, therapist, mentor, and walking embodiment of “safe adult.”

And here’s the real kicker—this isn’t just a rerun. It’s a preview. Chris and Chaz are teaming up to launch a brand-new show under the PA umbrella in the new year. He’s the brilliant. Chris is… well, let’s just say it’s appropriately titled.

In this episode, you’ll hear why Chaz has been the go-to guy for the hardest shit in Chris’s life since the ice rink days. They unpack everything from adolescent chaos and Zamboni-fueled misadventures to trauma, addiction, meth, grief, and how the fuck we’re supposed to survive it all.

Chaz breaks down why people turn to drugs not because they’re weak, but because the pain is unbearable—and why the world’s answer to that has been to shame them. He explains the realm of hungry ghosts, the devastating weight of childhood neglect, and why trauma isn’t what happened—it’s what never got healed.

Raw, funny, heartbreaking, and deeply human—this one’s a time capsule of the broken-to-healing pipeline. And a taste of what’s to come.

Chapters:
00:00 Thanksgiving Reflections and Show Launch
01:30 Insurance and Mental Health Support
02:17 Introducing Light in the Dark Coffee
03:39 Personal Milestones and Family News
04:35 Welcoming Chas Frankie: A Mentor's Perspective
08:11 Exploring Trauma and Addiction
10:15 Nostalgic Ice Rink Stories
12:31 Friendship and Shared Memories
20:09 Reflections on Personal Growth and Challenges
27:54 The Journey to Social Work
34:09 First Experiences in Counseling
40:20 Understanding Addiction and Its Roots
49:57 The Impact of Trauma on Addiction
56:02 The Role of Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs)
01:04:39 Navigating Mental Health Conversations
01:06:08 Creating Safe Spaces for Therapy
01:09:27 The Concept of Light Source in Therapy
01:12:42 Community Investment and Support
01:14:02 The Impact of Telehealth on Therapy
01:19:35 Feedback and Adaptation in Therapy
01:22:38 The Importance of Safe Adults in Trauma Recovery
01:28:12 Reflections on Personal Growth and Support

Mentions:
🧠 Chaz Franke’s therapy practice: https://findyourlightsource.com
☕ Light in the Dark Coffee: https://pondoffsanonymous.com
📚 Book drop: In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Maté
📍 Location: LightSource is located at 114 East Lincoln St, Belleville, IL

Sponsored by:
McKelvey Insurance
LightSource Psychotherapy

It’s the F*ck Around Show — and this one is the full buffet: trauma, texting, family dysfunction, emo heart emojis, and coffee that’ll punch you in the soul.

Chris, Jeff, and Zoë go deep and unhinged in this raw ride through recovery, relationships, and roasting the sh*t out of each other (and themselves). From whether ghosts can be good friends to why Zoë refuses to text anyone back unless you’re sending emojis with flair, this episode hits all the avoidant-attached neurotic highs and lows.

We get into how ACA (Adult Children of Alcoholics) meetings saved people’s a**es, why support groups are for more than addicts, and what it means to be haunted by unhealed sh*t. Pondoff opens up about surviving real violence (yes, whiskey bottles and all), and Zoë shares the exact story of her conception — yes, weed, cheesecake, and genitals are involved.

There’s also:

• Emotional support punch cards
• Coffee that funds the pod (https://www.pondoffsanonymous.com)
• A musical interlude about inclusive worship songs that’ll have you crying in your recovery mug
• A debate about Siri voices and Amish communication standards
• A collective obsession with The Sopranos
• A quick pitch for executive assistants who also respond to texts (aka unicorns)

This ep also features one of the wildest detours into strip clubs, pit bulls, bouncers, and the logistics of Zoe and Kathy house-sitting without burning down Chris’s life.

Also, Pondoff says something outrageous in a sermon. So there’s that.

Time stamps (DO NOT MISS):

• 00:00 Introduction to Recovery and Coffee
• 02:03 Navigating Communication in Friendships
• 05:56 Understanding Attachment Styles
• 11:59 Exploring Personal Relationships and Boundaries
• 17:59 Humorous Anecdotes and Family Dynamics
• 23:56 Navigating Family Dynamics and Healing
• 26:20 The Importance of Support Groups
• 28:00 Avoidance and Communication Challenges
• 29:49 The Necessity of Change in Recovery
• 32:00 Facing the Fear of Change
• 33:58 Reflections on Personal Experiences
• 35:59 The Role of Music in Healing
• 39:00 Introducing New Show Concepts
• 41:55 Promoting Community and Connection
• 45:02 Coffee and Community Engagement
• 48:04 Struggles with Weight and Substance Use
• 51:30 Reflections on The Sopranos
• 56:03 Personal Dynamics and Relationships
• 01:01:05 Plans for Future Shows and Guests
• 01:10:37 Building a Supportive Community
• 01:13:46 The Power of Shared Stories
• 01:17:33 Creating a Safe Space for Healing
• 01:19:55 Redefining Church and Community
• 01:24:56 The Importance of Connection and Outreach
• 01:29:50 Transformative Stories of Recovery
• 01:34:58 Encouragement and Affirmation in Community
• 01:39:01 Looking Ahead: Future Initiatives

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• Song: Plowshare Prayer by Spencer LaJoye
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Sponsored by:

• McKelvey Insurance
• LightSource Psychotherapy

Get our coffee, Light in the Dark, now at http://pondoffsanonymous.com

Sponsored by McKelvey Insurance and LightSource Psychotherapy

Who this episode is for:

• People who drink to take the edge off but can’t figure out why it’s not working
• Moms barely holding it together while doing all the things
• Anyone juggling success and secret self-destruction
• Former athletes still chasing performance highs
• Folks in the gray zone between “I’m fine” and “I’m falling apart”
• And the ones who think it’s “just wine”

This week, Chris, Jeff, and Zoe sit down with Allison Barber, a former collegiate gymnast turned alcohol freedom coach. Her story isn’t about a dramatic crash. It’s a slow slide—wine every night, quiet disconnection, pretending things are fine when they’re anything but.

She got out not through rehab or AA, but by finding This Naked Mind and realizing she didn’t need to hit bottom to change. No rock bottom. No labels. Just truth and science and a better way forward.

Now she helps others who feel stuck in the same loop—drinking more than they want to, quietly wondering if it’s a problem, and not sure where to turn. If you're sick of the guilt spiral and tired of trying to out-discipline your drinking, Allison’s approach will hit home.

She’s real, honest, and living proof that freedom doesn’t require everything falling apart. You can change your story before it wrecks you.

Find her at https://theinsideoutfreedom.com or email [email protected]

Timestamps:

• 00:00 – Sponsors
• 03:45 – Meet Allison Barber: gymnast, mom, nightly wine drinker
• 08:00 – Early perfectionism and pressure
• 13:15 – Bartles & James and beginning to self-medicate
• 22:00 – Marriage disconnect and drinking in secret
• 26:15 – The high-functioning lie
• 38:10 – Neck injury and the wake-up call
• 42:00 – Five bottles of wine in Florida
• 44:30 – Discovering This Naked Mind
• 53:30 – Becoming a certified coach
• 58:00 – Coaching without shame
• 1:06:00 – Parenting and healing
• 1:14:00 – Her last drink: June 21, 2020
• 1:18:32 – Confidence returns and major milestones
• 1:19:28 – theinsideoutfreedom.com and how to reach her
• 1:20:07 – Athletes and performance identity
• 1:21:10 – You don’t need to hit rock bottom
• 1:22:43 – The “sober curious” movement
• 1:25:43 – Ruth Langmore wisdom and humility
• 1:26:26 – Wine moms, COVID drinking, and purple teeth
• 1:29:00 – Heading to Hawaii without packing five bottles
• 1:31:36 – Recovery church and pizza
• 1:33:14 – Gratitude and staying connected

Work with Allison Barber

Visit https://theinsideoutfreedom.com or email [email protected] to schedule a free discovery call. You don’t need to hit bottom. You just need to want something better.

Sponsored by

• McKelvey Insurance
• LightSource Psychotherapy

Sponsored by:
🛡️ McKelvey Insurance – https://www.mckelveyins.com
🧠 LightSource Psychotherapy – https://findyourlightsource.com

S2 E39 – Losing Everything to Find Recovery with Jake Dunavant

Jake Dunavant shows up looking like a suburban dad with a Costco card. But don’t get it twisted. This man has walked through hell with a needle in his arm, kids in the next room, and nothing but chaos between him and redemption. A former union carpenter turned Senior Outreach Coordinator at Illinois Recovery Center, Jake is here to spill all the gut-punching, jaw-dropping, totally human details of his road from varsity wrestling to full-blown heroin addiction to reclaiming his family and purpose.

In this wild ride of an episode, the crew dives deep into Jake’s early intro to weed and booze, the rapid-fire escalation to cocaine and opioids, and the business-decision logic of IV heroin use. You’ll hear about the overdoses (plural), the Narcan resurrections, and the terrifying moment DFS swooped in and took his babies while he and his wife were literally overdosing in the same house. And yeah, he came this close to letting it all go to shit.

But against all odds, Jake and his wife Tabitha clawed their way back. Custody. Careers. Clean time. Faith. Family. All of it. He opens up about overcompensating as a parent, watching his son fumble a chance to compliment a girl (it’s hilarious), and how guilt-fueled parenting almost screwed them up all over again.

You’ll also get the full backstory on how he “courted” his now-wife with a dresser full of pink oxys. Take as many as you want, babe. And the deeply emotional, unshakeable power of hearing your newborn cry, only to stop the second he hears your voice. Yeah, even while you’re high as hell.

This one’s messy. It’s raw. It’s fucking real. If you’ve ever been there, or know someone who has, this episode will hit home in the deepest, ugliest, and most healing way.

Time Stamps (Do Not Skip These):

• 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Sponsors
• 06:00 Introducing Jake Dunavant: A Personal Story
• 14:03 The Role of Alcohol and Drugs in Youth
• 19:56 The Escalation of Substance Use
• 21:03 The Dangers of Modern Substance Use
• 23:03 Parenting Through Addiction
• 29:15 Overcoming Addiction and Regaining Custody
• 32:11 The Narcan Experience
• 36:16 The Role of Family and Faith in Recovery
• 39:31 Empathy and Understanding in Addiction
• 42:38 The Complexity of Love and Addiction
• 45:11 The Journey from Pills to Heroin
• 50:00 Reflections on Early Relationships and Substance Use
• 50:40 The Power of Connection and Humor
• 53:01 Navigating Relationships and Substance Use
• 55:02 The Impact of Parenthood on Addiction
• 59:00 The Struggles of Addiction and Family Dynamics
• 01:02:02 Detox and the Journey to Recovery
• 01:06:55 Life After Jail: A New Beginning
• 01:13:36 The Cycle of Addiction and Recovery
• 01:17:39 Finding Support and Connection
• 01:18:16 The Struggles of Addiction
• 01:19:32 Family Dynamics and Foster Care
• 01:20:31 Resentment and Recovery
• 01:21:10 Hitting Rock Bottom
• 01:25:11 The Role of Compassionate Intervention
• 01:27:15 Peer Support and Recovery
• 01:29:13 The Impact of Medication in Recovery
• 01:33:19 Building a New Life After Addiction
• 01:40:12 The Journey to Recovery Begins
• 01:43:07 Navigating Sober Living Challenges
• 01:46:25 Building Accountability and Humility
• 01:49:05 Rebuilding Relationships and Family Dynamics
• 01:51:57 Full Circle: From Recovery to Helping Others
• 02:00:04 Lived Experience: A Valuable Perspective
• 02:10:06 Gratitude and Hope in Recovery

Guest: Jake Dunavant – Senior Outreach Coordinator at Illinois Recovery Center, former heroin addict, father, husband, and all-around beast of recovery.

Check out Illinois Recovery Center: https://www.illinoisrecoverycenter.com

Who this episode is for:
Those navigating trauma like a damn obstacle course.
Anyone who’s ever been raised by chaos and still learned how to laugh.
People who’ve walked out of therapy like it was a bad Tinder date.
Survivors of fucked-up families who still believe in healing.
Anyone tired of tiptoeing around their own pain.
Those who love a little irreverence with their recovery.
And yes—even people who aren’t in recovery but have ever felt like a complete mess trying to hold their shit together.

This episode is the official introduction to our new co-host—and certified chaos enthusiast—Zoë Mendenall, MSW, trauma warrior, and walking tornado of wit, wounds, and wisdom.

Chris and Jeff crack the mic with Zoë, who used to intern for Chris’ wife Ashley, and somehow found her way from clinical work to co-hosting this circus. She’s no stranger to the team—but now she’s on the mic, and she’s unfiltered.

Zoë’s story? It’s brutal, beautiful, and deeply human. From growing up in a cyclone of addiction, loss, mental illness, and family trauma—to healing her throat chakra and ditching the vape—Zoë holds nothing back. She’s a proud “Jesus freak,” a therapy regular, a former Twitter menace (“If you’re not trying to mate like an anglerfish, I’m not interested”), and a woman who’s seen the inside of hell and still sings in church. For real.

You’ll laugh. You’ll wince. You might cry. But mostly, you’ll feel like you just sat down with a friend who finally said all the shit you’ve been thinking. This is why Zoë belongs here—with us. With you. With this whole messed-up, miraculous community.

Oh, and she ghosted Jeff’s Facebook request. So there’s that.

• 00:00 Introduction to Pondoff's Anonymous and Sponsors
• 02:57 The Impact of Chewing Sounds and Misophonia
• 06:00 Zoe's Introduction and Her Unique Perspective
• 08:58 Zoe's Life Experiences and Challenges
• 12:07 Healing and Recovery: The Role of Vaping and Chakras
• 14:59 Zoe's Tour of Illinois Recovery Center
• 18:02 Transformational Journeys in Recovery
• 20:59 Navigating Online Interactions and Safety Concerns
• 21:43 The Impact of Social Media on Mental Health
• 24:41 Navigating Personal Relationships and Boundaries
• 27:11 Childhood Experiences and Family Dynamics
• 35:15 Understanding Trauma and Its Long-Term Effects
• 43:28 Friendship and Community Support
• 44:53 Launching a New Church Initiative
• 46:59 Mental Health Conversations
• 49:41 Navigating Family Dynamics
• 51:58 Loss and Grief
• 58:50 Life Changes and Adaptation
• 01:05:44 Navigating Digital Privacy and Parenting Challenges
• 01:08:13 The Impact of Show Choir on Personal Growth
• 01:09:52 Family Dynamics and Emotional Turmoil
• 01:12:37 The Journey to Adoption and Finding a New Family
• 01:15:30 Pursuing Education and Career Aspirations
• 01:18:00 The Role of Community in Healing and Support
• 01:20:38 The Importance of Empathy and Connection in Recovery

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