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Guest: Kurt Francom
• Founder and Executive Director of Leading Saints
• Host of the Leading Saints Podcast – available anywhere you get your podcasts
• Author of Is God Disappointed in Me? Removing Shame from a Gospel of Grace – Get it here on Amazon (available in paperback and audio)
Follow Kurt on Instagram:@leadingsaints
Episode Highlights:
• Kurt’s perspective on grace and why God isn’t disappointed in us
• The difference between correction and disappointment
• The role of grace and commandments in our relationship with God
• How visiting other faiths has enriched his spiritual understanding
🎉 Upcoming Event! 🎉
Join us for our Divine Feminine and Women’s Empowerment Event on National Women’s Day, March 8th, from 5 PM to 8 PM at The Compass Gallery in Provo, Utah.
✨ This event is for both men and women who want to explore the power of the divine feminine through art, conversation, and meaningful connections.
🎟️ Get your tickets now at: tinyurl.com/empower2025
Thanks for listening to That’s Church! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast. Follow us on Instagram @thatschurchpodcast for more updates and behind-the-scenes content!
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Guest: Kurt Francom
• Founder and Executive Director of Leading Saints
• Host of the Leading Saints Podcast – available anywhere you get your podcasts
• Author of Is God Disappointed in Me? Removing Shame from a Gospel of Grace – Get it here on Amazon (available in paperback and audio)
Follow Kurt on Instagram:@leadingsaints
Episode Highlights:
• Kurt’s perspective on grace and why God isn’t disappointed in us
• The difference between correction and disappointment
• The role of grace and commandments in our relationship with God
• How visiting other faiths has enriched his spiritual understanding
🎉 Upcoming Event! 🎉
Join us for our Divine Feminine and Women’s Empowerment Event on National Women’s Day, March 8th, from 5 PM to 8 PM at The Compass Gallery in Provo, Utah.
✨ This event is for both men and women who want to explore the power of the divine feminine through art, conversation, and meaningful connections.
🎟️ Get your tickets now at: tinyurl.com/empower2025
Thanks for listening to That’s Church! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast. Follow us on Instagram @thatschurchpodcast for more updates and behind-the-scenes content!

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