We’re talking… Tom at the Hackney Empire, Rom’s warm-up gigs, end of show celebrations, the acceptability of jumping into the crowd, some mischievous misreporting, the mystery of a very intimidating audience member and dealing with successes and criticisms. Then it’s a glowing report from Rom’s recent appearance on Saturday Kitchen, the challenges of not swearing on live TV, a minor sticky toffee pudding scandal, some serious beef with burgers and the difference between fruit and veg.

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