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S2 Ep1005: Michael Lewis: Government Workers Aren't the Corrupt Ones


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Trump loves to complain about the deep state while Elon claims he's rooting out waste, fraud, and abuse with all his mass firings. But DOGE should be looking higher up the food chain to target the graft: for example, the South African immigrant whose car company would not have gotten off the ground without the taxpayer money he still collects. In contrast, government workers are mainly mission-driven and they're not in it for the money. Michael's new collection of essays takes a look at some of the characters who populate our federal workforce, including people performing small miracles without fame and glory. Plus, the risk of Trump politicizing economic data and his plan to destroy whatever trust people still have in the government.

Michael Lewis—and Sarah Vowell, who profiled a record keeper at the National Archives for the new book—join Tim Miller for the weekend pod.
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  • The new book, "Who Is Government: The Untold Story of Public Service"

  • Tim's "Bulwark Takes" on some of the men taken taken to the El Salvador prison camp

  • Adrian's "Huddled Masses" newsletter on ICE deportations based on tattoos

  • George Conway emergency pod on the Paul Weiss law firm caving to Trump

  • Michael's book, "Losers: The Road to Everyplace but the White House"

  • Tim's playlist

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