We caught lettering artist and typographer, Craig Black as he was whizzing around Australia for his national AGDA tour. But better than that, we also invited his wife Alison to bring her expertise as a mental health nurse to our conversation about mental health and the life of a creative.

Craig has shared a lot about his personal story, "and while he's the happiest he's ever been" he's inevitably endured the ups and downs of the creative's rollercoaster along the way.

This is one of the most personal episode's we've recorded... and we're so grateful that Craig and Ali could talk with us together.

If you're an independent creative, if you're struggling with work/life balance, or if you sometimes find yourself lost and not knowing where you want to get to, give this episode a listen. And then share it with whoever else you think would benefit.

Check out Craig's work at https://craigblackdesign.com/

Thanks to Streamtime https://streamtime.net

And get involved at https://nevernotcreative.org and https://mentally-healthy.org