PJ is struggling so Suzanne goes to the trusty Dubland audience and Dr. Google to diagnose him. PJ turns to Smithwicks. How are we getting on with the virus now? Judging by previous attitudes from your hosts you might guess where they are now... but I wouldn't bet your house on these yoyos. Suzanne stalks PJ in Howth. Suzanne gets more free stuff, PJ is suitably perturbed. There's talk about food and being/not being a foodie. An ad starring PJ from the 90s is uncovered. They get deep into the Dublin footballer Dean Rock 'controversy', they totally sort that out, Dubland style. They move on to full kit people. People just want to have craic, according to PJ, but they do not want any of the craic to set themselves as the target. There's a good conversation about mental health and the attitudes of people online. It's a very open, honest and raw conversation by the end. It's great stuff. Look, there's absolutely loads here. Go buy a t-shirt and enjoy Dubland.

This episode is sponsored by The UX Design Institute.