Explore a different take as Coleman interviews Calmversations host, Benjamin Boyce. While he is used to doing the interviewing with folks like Jonathan Pageau, Andrew Isker, Joe Rigney, and hundreds of others of a more eclectic strip, the interviewer turns interviewee as Coleman asks the questions and Benjamin gets the mic.

Benjamin’s Links:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/BenjaminABoyce

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NOTE: Two passages were conflated in my remembering. One from Exodus 17 where water is given from the rock and fills the valley. The other from Exodus 15 where bitter waters are made sweet. They come together to say essentially what I presented, but corrections where corrections are due. Links to both sermons below.

Sermons:

Bitter Water Made Sweet & the 12 Trees: https://www.proclaimkc.org/sermons/sermon/2025-02-23/lifes-bitter-water

Water from the Rock: https://www.proclaimkc.org/sermons/sermon/2025-03-09/the-rock-struck-for-gods-people

Mentioned in the show and other readings (Amazon Affiliate Links):

“Planet Narnia” by Michael Ward: https://amzn.to/3J5OhPC

“Project Hail Mary” by Andy Weir: https://amzn.to/4ncmdK7

“Return of The Strong Gods: Nationalism, Populism, and the Future of the West”: https://amzn.to/4nhqFY8

“The Book of The Hopi” by Frank Waters: https://amzn.to/43xg0Rc

“On Secular Education” by R.L. Dabney: https://amzn.to/4oy8k9R

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