This week, The Watchers are recapping and reviewing season 2, episode 4 of the Showtime series Yellowjackets, "Old Wounds."

Andrea and Jodie welcome their first guest, the lovely and hilarious Josh Gondelman! Josh is a writer and comedian who has worked on shows like The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel and Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. He also served as the head writer and executive producer on Desus and Mero. He’s the author of Nice Try: Stories of Best Intentions and Mixed Results, and last year, his debut comedy special, People Pleaser was produced by Comedy Dynamics, which means you can watch it just about anywhere. (You should, because it’s wonderful and so, so funny.) He’s also, most importantly for our purposes, a Yellowjackets fan.

We talk with Josh about Yellowjackets' balancing of comedy and drama, sitting with show's ambiguity, why the horror and gore isn't so bad even if you're a squeamish person, and of course, everything that went down this week in 1996 and 2021.

Watch Josh's debut comedy special People Pleaser.

You can catch Josh on the road. He's hitting just about everywhere in the United States this year.

Pick up Nice Try: Stories of Best Intentions and Mixed Results. You can read the essay we referenced at the beginning of the episode here.

Follow Josh on Twitter and Instagram, and sign up for his fantastic newsletter.

Get tickets for the Screaming Females livestream Andrea mentioned at the end of the episode here. They're New Jersey's greatest band.

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Thanks to Kitzy (@heykitzy) for the use of our theme song, "No Book Club."

Meet us back here next week for our review of Season 2, Episode 5 of Yellowjackets, "Two Truths and a Lie."