On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Eric Arellano and Nick Grisafi. They discuss the "curse of knowledge" and how to overcome it, the Pantsbuild project, pigs and more!

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Eric Arellano is a software engineer focused on empowering developers to build at scale through the open source Pantsbuild project. Eric is also a volunteer crisis counselor for LGBTQ youth and an aspiring pig parent.

Nick Grisafi is a Software Engineer with a strong passion for DevOps and scaling processes with automation. On the side, you may find Nick exploring the great outdoors with his dog or tinkering with DIY projects.

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