Shedding isn’t always soft. In this raw conversation, Kate and Ant—together 22 years, married 15—share how infidelity in 2023 became the catalyst for radical honesty, counseling, and ultimately opening their marriage in 2024. We explore the difference between cheating and consensual non-monogamy, the systems that keep them grounded (weekly “CEO chats,” shared accounts, vibe checks, red lines, and safewords), and how novelty and planning stoke intimacy rather than threaten it. They also talk about pairing “the lifestyle” with travel, building community as @playfulvoyagers, and the very real fallout of telling loved ones—including a sister’s handwritten letter ending their friendship for now. What emerges is a story about choice, transparency, body confidence, and putting pleasure first.

What We Cover

• Cheating vs. consensual non-monogamy: why transparency changes everything
• Practical frameworks: shared comms, boundaries, and aftercare
• Novelty, anticipation, and why planning sex can be hot
• Body image liberation inside lifestyle spaces
• Sharing your truth with family: risk, rejection, and self-authorship
• Travel + intimacy: “playaway days,” community, and fun

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