Season 5 is here! Today, we are getting to know Vanessa's partner, Devin, a little bit better. How does he feel about being the new co-host? What is he hoping to bring to the podcast? 

We are also chatting about what we have learned about being pet parents and how it has played a role in our childfree couple discussions and overall decision to become human parents. 

Head to the claiming zero Instagram or Facebook page for pictures of Trixie and send us your pet parenting stories at [email protected]! 

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