Ken chats with Ryan and Derek Sallmann about their top 5 North American birding destinations, how to start international travel, and more.

These guys run the Badgerland Birding YouTube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPOxZjoHULhsO95SRN4ScPg) and Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-badgerland-birding-podcast/id1722771407).

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Intro by Jenna Pinchbeck https://www.jennapinchbeck.com/ [email protected]

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