This episode focuses on the critical subject of race equality. Coinciding with the launch of our new report, Race 2.0 - Time for real change, Adam Brimelow speaks with chief executive Chris Hopson, who shares his journey on how to be actively anti-racist.

Deputy chief executive Saffron Cordery discusses our anti-racism statement and what actions we're taking, while associate director of programmes Jenny Reindorp discusses the findings. We’re also joined by Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust non-executive director Sim Scavazza to discuss how the NHS (and NHS Providers as an organisation) needs to do more and the challenges we must tackle personally and professionally.