The Cleveland Browns head coaching search is heating up, and the finalists are starting to take shape. On today’s episode of The Dawgland Podcast, Anthony Joki and Jackson McCurry break down the Browns’ second-round head coaching interviews, including Jim Schwartz, Grant Udinski, Nate Scheelhaase, and Todd Monken.

We debate whether Cleveland should prioritize continuity and accountability with Schwartz, or swing big on a young offensive mind to finally stabilize the quarterback position. We also dig into staff-building concerns, offensive play-calling responsibilities, and how the Browns’ uncertain QB situation could impact their final decision.

If you’re a Browns fan trying to make sense of the process, the patience required, and what direction this franchise should take—this episode is for you.

Go Browns.

• Jim Schwartz’s case for continuity and accountability

• Why Schwartz feels like a risky “one-and-done” hire

• Grant Udinski’s meteoric rise and upside as a head coach

• Can a 30-year-old first-time HC succeed in Cleveland?

• Rams passing-game coordinator Nate Scheelhaase and the patience factor

• Todd Monken’s role: head coach or OC option?

• Browns quarterback uncertainty and its impact on the coaching search

• Should Cleveland roll with Shedeur Sanders or add veteran competition?