This is a raw debriefing by Jan and Beth about Joey's relapse that happened earlier that day. Joey moved back to his dad's house in order to use substances again. He gave Jan and Beth his blessing (before his relapse) to continue the podcast and to talk about how relapse is a very common part of recovery. 

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Safe Home is created by Joseph Nakao and his moms Beth Syverson and Jan Mabie 

Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao 

Cover art by Joseph Nakao, photo by Beth Syverson, with design help from Nina Smith 

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Find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube 

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Here is our life coach Heather Ross’s Living With Addiction podcast episode that is mentioned, on which you can hear Beth, Jan, and Joey as her guests. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-40-supporting-your-childs-healing-journey/id1543141299?i=1000534800683

RESOURCES: 

Here are some resources for teens and others who are struggling right now: 

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: call 800-273-8255 - 24/7 

Lifeline Chat: https://Suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat - 24/7 

Teen Line: call 310-855-HOPE   6-10pm PST  Or text TEEN to 839863  Talk to other trained teens 

Youthline:  call 877-968-8491   4-10pm PST   Or text Teen2Teen to 839863. 

Need2Text: text TALK to 38255    24/7 

And here are some resources for therapy, coaching, and counseling: 

Find a Tele-Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling 

Miguel Rosell - Guided Core Integration: https://miguelrosell.com/ 

Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents of Addicted Teens: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/

In this episode, Joey talks with Beth about his extensive experience with psychedelics, especially LSD and DMT. He talks about why he likes to use them, how psychedelics can be unsafe - and how they can be used in a therapeutic manner under specific circumstances. 

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Safe Home is created by Joseph Nakao and his moms Beth Syverson and Jan Mabie 

Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao 

Cover art by Joseph Nakao, photo by Beth Syverson, with design help from Nina Smith 

Email questions or comments to Safe Home at [email protected] 

Find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube 

Support Safe Home on Patreon 

RESOURCES: 

Here are some resources for teens and others who are struggling right now: 

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: call 800-273-8255 - 24/7 

Lifeline Chat: https://Suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat - 24/7 

Teen Line: call 310-855-HOPE   6-10pm PST  Or text TEEN to 839863  Talk to other trained teens 

Youthline:  call 877-968-8491   4-10pm PST   Or text Teen2Teen to 839863. 

Need2Text: text TALK to 38255    24/7 

And here are some resources for therapy, coaching, and counseling: 

Find a Tele-Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling 

Miguel Rosell - Guided Core Integration: https://miguelrosell.com/ 

Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents of Addicted Teens: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/ 

TIME STAMPS: 

1:54 Types of psychedelics kids are using 

3:54 Why do people use psychedelics? 

6:00 What is a trip? 

10:35 What is a bad trip? 

16:33 DMT 

19:00 Joey’s mental health issues from psychedelics 

20:16 Joey’s suicide attempts 

24:58 Psychedelic integration circles 

28:00 How Joey obtained psychedelics at school 

30:00 Therapeutic uses of psychedelics 

36:48 Holotropic breathwork 

46:00 Mushrooms 

47:52 Joey’s advice to kids interested in trying psychedelics 

49:00 Joey’s advice to parents 

54:44 Deep existential thoughts from Joey

in this episode, the whole family - Jan, Beth, and Joey - talk about nicotine. Jan used nicotine (among other things) and tells Joey it was the hardest drug to quit. Joey talks about the prevalence of nicotine and vaping in schools and suggests ways that parents can help their kids if they get into vaping. 

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Safe Home is created by Joseph Nakao and his moms Beth Syverson and Jan Mabie 

Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao 

Cover art by Joseph Nakao, photo by Beth Syverson, with design help from Nina Smith 

Email questions or comments to Safe Home at [email protected] 

Find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube 

Support Safe Home on Patreon 

RESOURCES: 

Here are some resources for teens and others who are struggling right now: 

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: call 800-273-8255 - 24/7 

Lifeline Chat: https://Suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat - 24/7 

Teen Line: call 310-855-HOPE   6-10pm PST  Or text TEEN to 839863  Talk to other trained teens 

Youthline:  call 877-968-8491   4-10pm PST   Or text Teen2Teen to 839863. 

Need2Text: text TALK to 38255    24/7 

And here are some resources for therapy, coaching, and counseling: 

Find a Tele-Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling 

Miguel Rosell - Guided Core Integration: https://miguelrosell.com/ 

Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents of Addicted Teens: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/ 

NICOTINE INFO: 

Truth Initiative: Inspiring Lives Free from Smoking, Vaping, and Nicotine - https://truthinitiative.org/our-top-issues/vaping-issue 

The Vaping Fix podcast - https://wondery.com/shows/the-vaping-fix/ 

TIME STAMPS: 

2:07 Jan’s experience with nicotine 

6:04 Jan’s experience quitting meth v quitting nicotine 

6:53 Nicotine ads 9:30 Big Tobacco 

10:50 Names of vape products 

12:20 Difference between smoking and vaping 

14:05 Vaping system costs 

17:50 Why do people use nicotine 

19:30 Using nicotine without getting addicted 

20:10 Downsides of using nicotine 

21:00 How kids procure nicotine 

22:37 Nicotine then and now 

26:57 Peer pressure 

30:15 How Joey and Jan got off nicotine 

40:00 Preventing kids from starting using nicotine

In this episode, Joey and Beth talk about cannabis and vaping. Joey helps parents and other adults understand how kids are using cannabis today, why it's more harmful than when they were kids, and how to help kids who are using cannabis. 

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Safe Home is created by Joseph Nakao and his moms Beth Syverson and Jan Mabie 

Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao 

Cover art by Joseph Nakao, photo by Beth Syverson, with design help from Nina Smith 

Email questions or comments to Safe Home at [email protected] 

Find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube 

Support Safe Home on Patreon 

RESOURCES: 

Here are some resources for teens and others who are struggling right now: 

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: call 800-273-8255 - 24/7  

Lifeline Chat: https://Suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat - 24/7  

Teen Line: call 310-855-HOPE   6-10pm PST  Or text TEEN to 839863  Talk to other trained teens  

Youthline:  call 877-968-8491   4-10pm PST   Or text Teen2Teen to 839863.  

Need2Text: text TALK to 38255    24/7 

And here are some resources for therapy, coaching, and counseling: 

Find a Tele-Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling  

Miguel Rosell - Guided Core Integration: https://miguelrosell.com/  

Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents of Addicted Teens: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/ 

TIME STAMPS: 

1:36 Edibles 

4:11 Vaping THC 

4:30 Blunts & Joints 

6:00 Vape Pens 

7:22 Vaping Flavors 

8:08 Distillate v Live Resins 

11:14 Smoking Cannabis 

12:29 Vape Pods & Cartridges 

14:48 Dabbing 

16:32 Other Paraphernalia 

16:50 Good effects of cannabis 

18:00 Tolerance 

18:50 Dangers of cannabis 

20:30 Vaping in class 

21:45 Joey’s first experience with cannabis 

22:49 Athletics as insurance policy?  Not! 

24:00 Teens, cannabis, and mental health 

26:50 Mental addiction to cannabis 

28:27 3 strains of cannabis 

30:51 Psychedelics v cannabis 

31:37 Drug testing 

32:05 Delta 8 

33:10 Driving on cannabis 

35:22 Police reaction to teen cannabis use 

40:21 Where do kids get cannabis 

42:13 Weed delivery 

42:40 Advice to parents if their child is using cannabis 

43:48 Lung problems 

45:04 CBD 

46:12 How to get off cannabis 

48:10 Benefits of quitting cannabis 

49:33 More advice to parents and other caring adults 

51:10 Trauma and substance use

In this episode, Joey talks with Beth about his addiction to Coricidin and Benadryl in high doses. These over the counter medicines are extremely dangerous in high doses, yet they're very available to teens. Many adults aren't aware that kids are using these substances. 

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Safe Home is created by Joseph Nakao and his moms Beth Syverson and Jan Mabie 

Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao 

Cover art by Joseph Nakao, photo by Beth Syverson, with design help from Nina Smith 

Email questions or comments to Safe Home at [email protected] 

Find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube 

Support Safe Home on Patreon 

RESOURCES: 

Here are some resources for teens and others who are struggling right now: 

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: call 800-273-8255 - 24/7 

Lifeline Chat: https://Suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat - 24/7 

Teen Line: call 310-855-HOPE   6-10pm PST  Or text TEEN to 839863  Talk to other trained teens 

Youthline:  call 877-968-8491   4-10pm PST   Or text Teen2Teen to 839863. 

Need2Text: text TALK to 38255    24/7 

And here are some resources for therapy, coaching, and counseling: 

Find a Tele-Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling 

Miguel Rosell - Guided Core Integration: https://miguelrosell.com/ 

Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents of Addicted Teens: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/ 

Time Stamps: 

2:00 - Names and nicknames of cough medicines and other OTC medicines that 

3:06 - Why people like to use medium and high doses of these OTC medicines 

5:13 - What is harmful about using these medicines in medium or high doses 

11:31 - Joey’s introduction to using these substances 

18:04 - Joey’s low point 

28:05 - What Joey did to quit taking cough medicine 3

2:10 - Advice for parents and other adults to help keep kids safe from cough medicine

In this inaugural episode, meet 17yo Joey and his mom Beth as they explain the premise of this podcast and share their background. 

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Safe Home is created by Joseph Nakao and his moms Beth Syverson and Jan Mabie 

Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao 

Cover art by Joseph Nakao, photo by Beth Syverson, with design help from Nina Smith 

Email questions or comments to Safe Home at [email protected] 

Find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube 

Support Safe Home on Patreon 

RESOURCES: 

Here are some resources for teens and others who are struggling right now: 

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: call 800-273-8255 - 24/7 

Lifeline Chat: https://Suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat - 24/7 

Teen Line: call 310-855-HOPE   6-10pm PST  Or text TEEN to 839863  Talk to other trained teens 

Youthline:  call 877-968-8491   4-10pm PST   Or text Teen2Teen to 839863. Need2Text: text TALK to 38255    24/7 

And here are some resources for therapy, coaching, and counseling: 

Find a Tele-Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling 

Miguel Rosell - Guided Core Integration: https://miguelrosell.com/ 

Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents of Addicted Teens: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/ T

Time Stamps: 

1:58 Joey’s introduction 

4:51 Beth’s introduction 

9:22 What’s next for Safe Home? 

10:20 Joey’s song “Worth It” "Worth It" by Joseph Nakao  

LYRICS: Looking down staring at the street Never look up at hope, when I mope When I took the time to think I geeked Never losing sight that I might end it all tonight In spite the love I feel tonight Shame in my eyes After the fact I tried No one understands my pain Feeling all alone inside Might as well suicide Nothing feels alright feels alright Doing all the drugs to numb out Speaking in tongues to nod out Is it worth it Is it worth it Can I come out of this pain manifesting inside me Someone come find me Someone came and found me Out of this ditch I found me Family and friends stood by me Now I see the light inside me Thank God for the light Now I never feel the fright Looking down staring at the street Never look up at hope, when I mope When I took the time to think I geeked Never losing sight that I might end it all tonight In spite the love I feel tonight Shame in my eyes After the fact I tried No one understands my pain Feeling all alone inside Might as well suicide Nothing feels alright feels alright