@livvonoelreich

The scene:

We are in Ladera Heights, Los Angeles, CA on a warm day in Liv’s backyard sitting on lawn chairs drinking tea. This sounds like we live gentle lives; yesterday we fixed her garage door by lifting it together and also road motorcycles all over LA. This is our normal. Our friendship has weathered many journeys and many miles on motorcycles. Join us in the garden for curiosity, laughter, and pre-psychotherapy.

Highlights:

• A Swede from Alabama
• Difficulty making female friends
• Babes Ride Out
• Clicking together quickly and easefully
• Seeking adventures together
• Attacking the stressor immediately = non-procrastination
• Being in the world, being curious, being in action
• The importance of having purpose
• Currently in her Masters of Psych at Pepperdine 
• Massaging is a lot of alone time with your own thoughts
• The body communicating different messages than the mind
• Rocking the body to see where the tension is holding on
• Being present with others
• Why do they scrub you wearing black granny panties at Korean spas?
• Near-death experiences that are hilarious
• Helping others transform their lives
• Weaving in experiences of acting, psychology, and massage
• Creating your life around physical freedom
• Seeing a wide horizon in your life
• Choosing newness to avoid stagnation
• Minimizing “making wrong”, blame, being fearful of the future
• Avoiding rejection by not proceeding
• Being 100% committed, AND detached from the outcome
• The Race to Alaska documentary
• The Women Riders World Relay
• Filming 12 women on motorcycles riding through Pakistan
• Transitioning from doing everything yourself to leaning into others
• Viewing your life as many projects
• Appreciation of others and listening 
• “You lose intention when you lose punctuation.”

A taste:
“Through the physical comes the emotional.”

“Sometimes I don’t move forward with things because I like the idea of what is possible with the idea and if I move forward with it, perhaps it’s not going to work out the way I wanted it.”

Favorite sayings:

“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.” (The Serenity Prayer)

“The health of the eye seems to demand a horizon. We are never tired, so long as we can see far enough.” - Emerson

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@arisjanigian
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The scene:
We are sitting in the sun on a chilly Spring day just outside Aris’ living space, which is attached to his private library of 1 billion books (actually 5,000 ish). Aris begins the interview a bit withdrawn, perhaps shy, perhaps melancholic - like any truly great writer is expected to be - but warms up throughout and by the end is truly lively. It has taken me a moment to return to editing and releasing interviews. I saw Aris in yoga the other day and we shared that we had such fond memories of what a great interview it was, it is. Join us as we explore the human condition and how it is captured with words.

Highlights:

• Bestselling author of “Waiting for Lipchitz at Chateau Marmont”
• Moved to Fresno from LA eight years ago
• Began writing in the 5th grade. First book: “The Adventures of Hallelujah Harry”
• What makes a “gifted” writer?
• Two novels by the age of 25
• Writing because you have to write...you have something to say
• Began writing regularly his junior year of college, as a medicine
• Using writing to harness a self-destructive energy
• Why publish? > ego, being noticed, being seen, vanity, loving people
• Wanting others to feel the richness of their internal life
• Helping others find themselves
• Connection is the root of many creative endeavors
• Suffering is a character trait that serves writers well
• Patience/a long view is important when writing one book over many years
• Maturing out of immediate gratification
• Tragic humor and satire
• Embracing one’s own madness, coupled with self-compassion
• “Essentially we’re scripting our own lives continuously”
• No one can define great art, it has a transcendent quality
• Relying on the judgement of others to measure you
• Trusting informed readers for feedback
• We would be nothing without the love of other people
• Community makes you feel at home in the world
• Observing others as they journey through the world
• Conflict > Friction > Fire > Life, warmth, light…
• Writing “aggressive”, “racist”, “sexist” books
• Uncomfortability creates an opportunity to elevate consciousness
• The world is not static, we must constantly revise our approach
• “One should be happy to be confronted with a genuinely authentic new perspective”
• Yearning to be confronted by someone with your own flaw or bias
• We identify too much with our own thoughts and opinions
• Trained as a scientist - PhD in Research Psychology, specifically Social Cognition
• Taught college psych for 23 years
• Research him on Google scholar for his papers on human studies
• Advice to younger self: “Get help sooner.” (meds, therapy, yoga/meditation)
• 19 year yogi
• Play more
• Grieving when you can’t write
• Longest writing “slump”: current, 1 1/2 years…
• Novel writing comes from a different place, it’s like a puzzle

A taste:

• “We view our selves as western expansion does, an American cultural egotism that creates dynamism.”
• “Most of our rhetoric, our language, is oriented towards youth.”
• “The novelist mind requires that you see everything when you write one sentence.”

Favorite saying:
(He can’t remember. Ask his friends for the notes they take of the funny things he says.)

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@john_lofgren
@johnlofgrenbootmaker
johnlofgren.com

The scene:
We are in the private library of John’s friend Aris, surrounded by at least 5,000 books, in the Tower District of Fresno, CA on a sunny-cold winter day, bathing in the sunlight beaming in through the floor-to-ceiling windows. John has intentionally not listened to my other interviews, both of us wanting for each question to feel fresh and unrehearsed. We discover similar pasts in and ethical beliefs about fashion. Perseverance is a big takeaway. Join us in the speakeasy library for a value-driven conversation about dad-fashion and more important things.

Highlights:
+ Running a company in Japan (from the US)
+ Traveling for work and it feels like a vacation
+ Lived in Japan for 17 years
+ First went to Japan as a vintage buyer for a clothing co.
+ Yoga changed his life
+ We met through Keryn Nicholson the Hatter (episode 28)
+ Established his boot brand in 2010
+ An American buying US vintage for the Japanese market
+ Wearing replica vintage used to be scandalous
+ “Outdoor style” - function became fashion
+ Did not go to school (for fashion or shoemaking)
+ Insisted on “ethically made” from the onset
+ Where does the string that closes the bag that carries the boot come from?
+ But…where do the buckles REALLY come from?
+ Studied Cultural Anthropology
+ Doing it right is VERY expensive
+ Who are we giving our money to?  Who are we supporting?
+ Greenwashing
+ B Corp and “ethical verifications”
+ Doing something because it’s right (not for the credit)
+ Holding others accountable
+ Social responsibility
+ How to plant the seed to educate others to choose ethically made
+ The money you buy something with supports the government of the country it was made in (READ THAT AGAIN)
+ Our biggest vote in the world is with our dollars (Are we supporting regimes?)
+ Making the very best thing that you possibly can
+ The satisfaction of wearing something ethically untainted
+ Being painfully honest is helpful (low self esteem is unhelpful)
+ Dad was a farmer and did construction
+ Whatever you talk about doing is doable, but 99% of people don’t
+ Going broke…more than once (and being in real deep debt)
+ Losing everything in the 2011 earthquake tsunami
+ Looking for a lifestyle that’s a little less technology, a little more analog
+ Dear younger self: please do better in high school
+ You might know the language but if you don’t get the culture, you won’t last
+ Radical openness and radical listening

A taste:
“Maybe they sleep on it and maybe it’s like how that seed was planted in me when I was in Egypt when I was 21 years old, maybe sometime a little ways down the line they’ll think, ‘Hey, I’d like to see what it’s like to wear something that’s ethically made too, something that’s not tarnished with slave labor or child labor.” Even if it’s just one part of it - see what it’s like to own one thing that’s completely ethically made.”

“You’ve got to have some sort of personality trait that’s a little abnormal to do what we do, or everybody would do it, wouldn’t they?”

Favorite saying:
“The strongest of the fittest.”

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@robesp90

The scene:
We are in Manchaca, Texas on a warm evening in May, sitting at a wooden picnic table under an umbrella strung with cafe lights.  We’re about to head to the Manchaca Springs Saloon to continue hanging with the Model Citizens classic car club who are coming off a weekend of cruising after the Lone Star Roundup classic car show. It’s been epic. Scraping down Congress St. in a classic car parade is a definite bucket list item. Join us for a chill chat about drifting, racing, scraping, and making OCD your friend.

Highlights:
+ Classic car builder since 2018
+ Currently owns: ’65 bagged C10 (Chevy square body truck), ’65 4-door Chevy Nova (V8 swapped, Ford rear-end), ’71 wagon
+ Used to own: ’91 240 SX, imported from Japan…
+ Drift raced for 10-15 years
+ Learned to work on cars by racing them
+ Hand sketches all his design ideas
+ Works through Gringo’s Auto and Custom - an auto shop that does custom work
+ Model Citizens’ annual ‘Git Down at Manchaca Springs Saloon
+ Getting recognition for your passion
+ Grew up riding BMX and teaching himself to build
+ Enjoys teaching others what he has taught himself
+ Grew up in Manchaca, his grandparents live here
+ OCD helps him produce beautiful cars and complete jobs
+ Downside of OCD: exhaustion, burnout, not feeling appreciated
+ Community support keeps him on track and reconfirms his direction
+ Seeing your hard work pan out makes it all worthwhile
+ Trial and error all the time
+ Excitement about working with customers
+ Innovating classic cars through customization
+ Air ride, bags, hydraulics, scraping
+ “Scraping’s just a way of life”
+ It’s gotta go lower or higher - some things do need to be lifted
+ Working on cars (7 days/week) is tough on relationships
+ Life balance, relaxing in-between
+ Working for yourself, investing in yourself
+ You can make 10k+ competing in fishing (WTF!)
+ Being gifted with a mechanical mind and capable hands
+ True “failure” is something you can’t repair, most “accidents” are repairable

A taste:
“It’s basically OCD and obsession on everything and anything. Super crazy about what I do and then OCD enough to where everything has to be done right and finished. I hate unfinished projects.”

Favorite saying:
“Fuck around and find out.” 
(Try things, don’t give up, learn what you don’t know).

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@manchaca_springs_saloon

The scene:
We are in Manchaca, Texas (South Austin) sitting at an old wooden table inside the saloon (where we have taken at least one shot of tequila once upon a time…).  This place is what I would consider the ideal bar: decorated all over with badass collected artifacts, huge outdoor space with a stage for live music, and food trucks. Basically, one could live here. And Josh almost does. Not only is he here daily, but he lives down the road.  Join us in the saloon for the story of where Josh came from and how he ended up sitting across from me.

Highlights:
+ The annual “Git Down” classic car show at the saloon
+ Likes entertaining
+ A BBQ joint became the saloon
+ Business name: Rodriguez Rod and Cycles
+ Started painting lowrider bicycles when he was 13
+ 1939 Chevrolet Master Deluxe is his daily beater (it’s gorgeous)
+ Built every bike he ever had from scratch
+ Had his own TV show on the Discovery Channel: Texas Car Wars
+ Now he’s ready to chill (and wouldn’t do TV life again)
+ His uncle gave him his first paint gun
+ First car at 15: ’77 Monte Carlo dropped to the ground, primer grey with a red velvet interior
+ Lots of drag races, way too fast on motorcycles
+ Has taught a few painters - those who showed genuine interest
+ Grew up in South Austin - was the cool spot back in the 80’s
+ Manchaca is the last part of South Austin that feels like it hasn’t changed
+ Manchaca is in Travis County, not part of Austin City (so, still the wild west)
+ The history of Manchaca and the springs/Onion Creek dates to the 1400’s
+ Has found over 1000 arrowheads in the area since he was a kid
+ Grew up across from the green belt (literally a paradise)
+ Growing up shooting bb guns
+ Lost an eye at 4 years old (not from a bb gun, it made his other eye stronger)
+ Making OCD work for you - developing an acute sense of detail
+ Being a big risk-taker
+ “Nobody ever wakes up in the morning and says, “Man, I’m glad I did that cocaine.”
+ Being a fighter, staying one step ahead, nobody else gets the last word
+ Doing a lot for your community, and your community helping you
+ Grew up in a house full of people, and then invited all the neighbors over :)
+ Growing up fast (too fast)
+ He’s an old soul, living young soul lessons (over and over)
+ Making mistakes, recognizing them, and choosing better

A taste:
“I grew up in South Austin…it was really the cool spot in Austin back in the ’80’s during my era of growing up. Everybody was wearing cut-off blue jeans and had their hair cut long and drank a lot of beer and sat underneath all the trees at every park you could find. And nobody got in trouble or got fucked with.”

Favorite Sayings:
“Higher than giraffe pussy.”
“You should only regret something once.”
"To thine own self be true."
"Always keep your mind open - there’s always two sides to the story."
"Keep your eyes open, and your ear to the ground."
"Be grateful for every new day."

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@planetmarfa
planetmarfa.com

The scene:
We are in Marfa, Texas sitting at one of the many tables in the gorgeous outdoor enclosed patio of Planet Marfa. It’s like a secret desert oasis that all the most interesting locals know about. The bar in the center of the patio resembles a treehouse. There’s also a teepee (that is a cave below ground)…and a school bus…and a dance floor…with a jungle gym! Wow. Join us inside this patio wonderland for a very sisterly, aquarian sharing of the life journey.

Highlights:
+ Planet Marfa is the first bar/restaurant she has owned
+ Buying a place to keep it the same - Project: Save Planet Marfa
+ “I don’t know anything about that but I’ll figure it out”
+ Working the Marfa radio station during the pandemic
+ Originally from Houston
+ Being a new business owner in a tight-knit town
+ Aquarians…
+ Falling in love with Marfa
+ Your slow-down place becoming your social place
+ Loving your staff and your regulars
+ Learning tenacity
+ Life events reflecting your strengths back to you
+ Empowering others instead of bossing
+ Learning to rely on others
+ Having a business that is visited by every kind of person
+ Enjoying watching people enjoy themselves
+ Coping mechanism: being needed
+ Knowing when to drop our childhood survival skills
+ Being confident and not giving a shit
+ Making music video covers in middle school
+ Loving yourself - being your own best friend
+ Being open to but not looking for a partner
+ Learning to take care of ourselves
+ Wanting to be a whore but behaving like an asexual
+ Flipping the script on crushes and seeing yourself in them
+ Falling in love with ourselves through the reflection we see in others
+ Nurturing our relationship with ourselves
+ Start where you are - and just smile at others

A taste:
“I used to come out here and it was quiet and I was peaceful and I’d spend a lot of time at my house…it’s where I would slow down and forget about my regular life.  So it’s a little strange now this is the place where I’m very busy…it’s kind of flipped, now Houston’s where I go to slow down.”

Mantra:
“I am here now.”

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@thesoundmindgarden
thesoundmindgarden.com

The scene:
We are in Joshua Tree, CA in Petra’s home with her 6 month-old baby boy Marley, her husband Ryan, and her mom who is visiting from Czechoslovakia. I am elated to have this time with Petra as it is very unexpected, yet feels perfectly timed. Petra has been playing soundbaths since early 2019. She played for our meditation retreat a few days earlier and the year before that, which was my first ever. She has such a calming and approachable energy. Join us in her home sanctuary for an honest share of the journey from corporate America to the present.

Highlights:
+ “Upgrading reality” by letting things go keeps life energy flowing
+ Creative focus without interruptions is blissful
+ There is no true giving without receiving
+ Unconditional love - do I do the same thing for myself?
+ Her new practice to change a repetitive “story”: contemplate the thought, then add a prayer
+ No simply means no.  Saying no is self care.
+ Lived in Denver, CO for 14 years
+ Moved to JT to change her life - left a corporate job and a cushy life
+ Being away from tall buildings allows the mind to expand and flow creatively
+ Rebirthing yourself through choice of place
+ Immersing yourself in nature AND having community
+ Living in a quiet space allows for stillness
+ Stillness allows for a different internal focus
+ What you see outside is what you experience inside
+ Fighting to fix yourself in chaos is possible, and maybe extra challenging
+ Finding joy inside - rediscovering joy
+ What is my priority?  Having limited time guides this
+ Being non-linear with how you spend your time
+ Flow is a journey, allow it to surprise you
+ You don’t know what you don’t know
+ Recorded an album called Gratitude
+ Aligning with the pure motive of why you’re doing what you’re doing
+ Petra used to work in finance, planning retirements…wearing heels!
+ Waiting for the plan vs. leaping first and then the plan forming
+ Stay put long enough to allow “your thing” to show up - it will find you
+ Sell/give away everything that doesn’t bring you joy
+ If you keep doing it and it doesn’t change, then perhaps it is your authentic journey
+ “Work” not draining you but instead heightening you
+ Working with people on vacation
+ Inviting people into your experience, sharing what you are living
+ Living in virtue takes practice, there is no timeline
+ Gratitude is accessible to everyone, it is non-denominational
+ Every part of our journey matters
+ Learning to listen to others / not insisting on doing things on your own
+ Recognizing those whom we should listen to, and those we should not
+ Listening deepens empathy
+ Going from 3 boxes of shoes to having what you need
+ Having “things” takes your energy
+ Substance-free experiences - being high on actual life
+ Don’t attach - to anything
+ “Spiritual Materialism” and not selling a spiritual experience
+ Soundscape Musician vs. “Sound Healer”
+ Trust that all is well - especially in hard times
+ Stay playful, nimble, and curious
+ Everyone wants to be heard, but who is willing to listen?

“Once you get on the string you have to do everything to stay on that string, which is the path, which is really the only path there is. Just keep following that creative flow. And everything that arises is supposed to. All of the people that show up on the journey are exactly those people who are supposed to show up.”

Favorite saying:
“I am t

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@marfarockshop
moonlightgemstones.com

The scene:
We are in Marfa, Texas at Paul’s rock shop sitting in the back workshop where all the magic happens - where rocks you kick become beautiful jewelry. For me, this is an intentional return trip to Marfa to see Paul again and absorb more of the magic I feel when I’m in this part of Texas.  Last time, I bought a beautiful turquoise and silver ring that one of Paul’s apprentices made. His shop could easily be a museum; it is unreal what beauty our earth is able to create from elements. Join us for a brief history through Paul’s adventures and trade.

Highlights:
+ Lapidary = one who cuts, polishes, or engraves gems.
+ Moved to TX in 1984 for a job at the observatory
+ Started by collecting agate as a hobby
+ He’s a surface collector as opposed to a digger
+ Armadillo races with Jalapeño Sam
+ An article featuring his jewelry got him fired from a pump job
+ Ended up in Marfa because it was “cheap” (20 yrs ago)
+ Apprentices are good labor if they’re competent
+ Staying somewhere because you can’t afford to leave
+ Surviving breaking your leg in the wilderness
+ Crawling out from the debt of medical bills
+ His employees typically learn and move on
+ Finding a good balance with helpers and prioritizing your own work time
+ Feeling “too generous”
+ Political intolerance is extreme in TX
+ America is founded on genocide
+ “A blueberry in a strawberry field”
+ Having a science background in an industry associated with mystical properties
+ Being given access to private property
+ Agates in TX
+ Feeling outcast for not participating in local catholic religious activities
+ Being seen as part of “the invasion of Marfa” (by white people)
+ Every day is a surprise
+ Political corruption, abortion rights, religious rule
+ Seeking a “progressive environment” / the decay of America
+ Working in the service fixing radios

A taste:
“When somebody comes to me and says, ‘Can I learn , can I apprentice?’ well, it’s a benefit to me because I gain labor - if they’re a competent person, and that’s been the case with a number of very talented young people that want to learn.”

Favorite saying:
“I can’t believe I’m getting away with selling rocks in the desert.”

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The scene:
We are near Willcox, Arizona at “Happy Camp” on BLM land where I dry camp and Fred leases from the US Govt. to roam his current 130 head of cattle.  I have appointed Fred the mayor of Happy Camp because he makes it his business to know who’s coming and going and why.  We met the last time I was out here.  Fred and I couldn’t appear more different but we seem to be cut from the same cloth.  Hank and I take a ride up into the hills in his side-by-side to check on the water pumps for his cattle.  Join us at camp for an honest tale told through the eyes of the last great generation of ranchers.

Highlights:
+ Ranched the Mexico border for 24 years during the late 80s and early 90s
+ 200 head allotment, 29 sections, 640 acres/section, 19,000 acres
+ Third generation - passed down from both Mom’s and Dad’s side of the family
+ Sells calves through the local auction at 6-8 months old
+ Ranchers get paid $1 - $1.20 per pound…grocery stores sell it for $10-25/lb
+ Can’t afford to hire help
+ There are 4-5 “middle men” (butchers, packers, etc.) getting paid between the rancher and the grocery store
+ Ranchers don’t fully understand why they get paid so little
+ “The rich get richer and the poor get poorer”
+ You’ve got to really like animals and ranching to be in it
+ Fred gets attached to his animals (why he doesn’t slaughter his own chicken)
+ His horses are like family members to him
+ Rain is scarce - when there’s not enough, they haul water up the mountain
+ Runs three solar-powered water pumps
+ “Just get up and go every day”
+ “Don’t blame nobody for all your mistakes” - if you screw up, admit it and go on (learned from dad)
+ Go to college, see how other people do things in the world, then come back to ranch
+ Most of the people who own ranches are the money people, not families any more
+ A good saddle horse costs $8-10K
+ Poachers thieve calves from the land
+ Ranchers and farmers are his community because they understand him (not town people)
+ Most people don’t understand where food comes from (not the grocery store)
+ Credit cards are a dirty trick - Fred is cash or check only
+ The countryside is his church and his freedom (no bosses)
+ Mom loaned him 30K for his first bunch of cows in ’91
+ Ranchers don’t die…the cattle won’t let them
+ Fighting leukemia since 2007
+ Look forward and have a sense of humor - feeling sorry for yourself is the worst thing you can do
+ Didn’t get an allowance and also didn’t want for nothin’

A taste:
“Just put one foot forward and keep goin’. Just do your best if you can. Take life as it comes because that’s the only choice you’ve got.  Be happy...most of the time try to be happy, and do right. […] You make your own mistakes your own way, you learn by your mistakes.  And take responsibility, even if you screw up, "so I screwed up", go on with it.”

Favorite saying:
“You can’t be right all the time.”

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@barakhardley

The scene:
We are in Los Angeles, CA sitting in Barak’s living room joined by his two cats. This is the first interview I’ve been bullied into (is it bullying if you’re willing?) We have a total blast talking about life experiences that have shaped the way we think. At one point, Barak commandeers the interview to have us create something together - that’s an interview first! Barak is lovely, unique, kind, creative, and funny. Join us as we plan world domination…or maybe just another really good idea for keeping his cat from turning on the faucet.

Highlights:
+ A new year’s resolution of getting on Tik Tok
+ Learning to verbalize what you’re creating
+ Sharing the process of creating things with others
+ Dialoguing with others while creating
+ We met on the set of a music video - shoutout to @mamahotdog (hire us again! K thanks! ;)
+ Life is art vs. Art is life
+ Avoiding displeasure by creating opportunity out of any experience
+ Being inspired by others responding to your art
+ Reprioritizing social media beyond likes
+ Barak used to be a pastor and then stopped believing in God
+ Losing your “truth” and finding another one
+ This world is chaos and it’s so unlikely that we would exist
+ We are the universe aware of itself, enjoying itself
+ Podcasts: meet a stranger and talk like best friends for an hour
+ Becoming a comedian to deal with depression and insecurity
+ Developing more healthy aspects of validation
+ Making deeper friendships through projects
+ Transitioning from hoarder to maker
+ Removing obstacles from the creative process
+ Fighting through depression, being grateful for the experience
+ Craving challenges, knowing they bring breakthroughs
+ From avoiding uncomfortability to embracing the challenge
+ Figuring out that you like the struggle
+ Chasing the creative dream to feel genuinely satisfied in life
+ Creating the possibility that you can do whatever you want however you want
+ The necessity of the hustle to maintain the creative spirit
+ “What’s the place where I’m the best?” - where passions overlap
+ All the projects we pursue are connected, that crossroads is our own magic
+ Being confident in what you’re talking about and being less defensive
+ Barak hijacks the interview and I let him
+ We concept an experiential event on a white board
+ The greatest harm in life was comparing himself to others
+ Question the voice that says NO

A taste:
“I think the process of making things is so interesting to me. It’s more interesting than the thing itself.”

“I’d much rather be creating and building than spend another minute trying to resuscitate an acquaintance.”

Favorite saying:
“This is a cold brutal world, but it was cobbled together by people who had it much worse.”

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