In this episode of Salt Sessions, hosts Kelly and Madeline sit down with entertainment lawyer and entrepreneur Lisa Moore, longtime attorney to Cardi B, for a deep dive into the legal side of the modeling and entertainment world. Lisa shares how she went from studying criminal defense at UVA to accidentally landing in entertainment law on her very first day at a firm, and what it’s really like balancing transactional work and high-stakes litigation for major talent.

Together, they break down what models should look for before signing with an agency: key contract terms like term, termination, transparency, territory, compensation, and exclusivity, plus major red flags such as pressure to sign quickly, vague one-page contracts, and “talk to our lawyer only” situations. Lisa explains why every model should do due diligence on an agency’s roster and placements, and why having an independent lawyer review your contract is so important.

The conversation also covers safety on set, listening to your gut when something feels off, bringing support when possible, and what legal options exist when images are misused. Lisa unpacks the growing world of influencer and brand deals, FTC disclosure rules, why you still need a real contract even for “small” collaborations or gifted product, and how bad influencer contracts can quietly kill future opportunities.

Finally, they talk about AI and why models must be extremely careful with any clause that allows their image, name, or likeness to be used for training or generating AI content, the value of forming a loan-out company for talent, and how choosing the right agency and legal team can protect both your career and your reputation long term.

Salt Sessions is produced by Soundspired, a video-first podcast agency that transforms ideas into polished, professional shows designed to engage and grow audiences. Follow them on Instagram at @soundspiredmedia

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In this episode of Salt Sessions, hosts Kelly and Madeline sit down with Jenny Nowak, Agency Director at Click Models and longtime friend of Madeline’s, for an inside look at how top modeling agencies operate behind the scenes. Jenny shares her journey from starting as a teen model in Paris and London to eventually “switching sides of the desk” and leading a major agency office.

Together, they dive into what an agency director really does day to day, the realities of scouting talent, how client needs differ across markets, and why Atlanta leans more toward lifestyle and commercial print work than high fashion. Jenny also explains how placement decisions are made, why a strong and consistently updated book is the most important career tool a model has, and the common mistakes new models make when entering the industry.

From tattoos and body modifications to changing beauty standards, development timelines, and managing expectations in today’s fast-moving market, this episode offers candid, practical insight for models, parents, and anyone curious about how agencies think and operate.

Salt Sessions is produced by Soundspired, a video-first podcast agency that transforms ideas into polished, professional shows designed to engage and grow audiences. Follow them on Instagram at @soundspiredmedia

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In this episode of Salt Sessions, hosts Kelly and Madeline sit down together for a candid Q&A, turning the spotlight on themselves as they break down what really surprises them about working with models, what clients notice on set that talent often overlook, and why the “little things” – from showing up early to hanging up your clothes and staying off your phone – can make or break a career.

They also dig into how the modeling industry has evolved: from social media and AI to more inclusive standards of beauty, body types, and gender expression. Kelly and Madeline explain how rates are set in different markets, the difference between runway, lifestyle, and commercial work, what “usage” and “in perpetuity” actually mean, and how money flows between client, agency, and model – including realistic payment timelines and commissions.

Finally, they share honest advice on when to say yes to test shoots, why choosing the right mother agency matters, and how shifting markets in New York, LA, Miami, and beyond are reshaping what it takes to build a sustainable career. If you’ve ever wondered how the business side of modeling really works, this episode is your inside guide from the agents’ perspective.

Salt Sessions is produced by Soundspired, a video-first podcast agency that transforms ideas into polished, professional shows designed to engage and grow audiences. Follow them on Instagram at @soundspiredmedia

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In this episode of Salt Sessions, hosts Madeleine and Kelly sit down with Walter Birdsong, a signed model at The Salt Agency, to demystify what really goes on between models and their agents. They open up about the trust, communication, and collaboration that shape successful careers—and share personal stories from their own experiences in the modeling world. Walter offers his unique perspective from in front of the camera, giving aspiring models a real look at what it takes to build lasting, professional relationships in the industry.

Salt Sessions is produced by Soundspired, a video-first podcast agency that transforms ideas into polished, professional shows designed to engage and grow audiences. Follow them on Instagram at @soundspiredmedia

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In this episode of Salt Sessions, hosts Madeleine and Kelly sit down with Donaldo Taylor, a celebrity hair and makeup artist whose work spans TV, film, commercial, and editorial productions. Donaldo shares his journey through the beauty industry, what it’s like working on major sets, and the artistry that goes into creating camera-ready confidence. From career lessons to behind-the-scenes stories, this conversation is packed with inspiration for models, creatives, and beauty professionals alike.

Salt Sessions is produced by Soundspired, a video-first podcast agency that transforms ideas into polished, professional shows designed to engage and grow audiences. Follow them on Instagram at @soundspiredmedia

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In this episode of Salt Sessions, hosts Madeleine and Kelly talk with Alexandra Zak, a model and photographer who’s experienced the industry from every angle. Alexandra opens up about what it’s really like to be on both sides of the lens sharing how her work behind the camera has shaped her approach to modeling, what she’s learned about collaboration, and her best advice for anyone stepping into the industry.

Salt Sessions is produced by Soundspired, a video-first podcast agency that transforms ideas into polished, professional shows designed to engage and grow audiences. Follow them on Instagram at @soundspiredmedia

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In this first episode of Salt Sessions, meet Madeleine, founder of The Salt Agency, and Kelly, COO, as they share their personal journeys and the story behind Salt. Learn how the agency started, what Salt stands for, and get exclusive behind-the-scenes insights into the modeling world.

They also discuss Kelly’s background in modeling and the TV industry, giving aspiring models and creative professionals a first-hand look at the challenges, lessons, and opportunities in the industry. Whether you’re curious about modeling careers, agency life, or the business of fashion, this episode is your introduction to the hosts and the world of Salt Sessions.

Salt Sessions is produced by Soundspired, a video-first podcast agency that transforms ideas into polished, professional shows designed to engage and grow audiences. Follow them on Instagram at @soundspiredmedia

Follow us on Instagram: @saltmodel

Check out our website: Saltmat.com