Robin and Dennis discuss manipulation with a special focus on Sandy Rosenthal's work following Hurricane Katrina. Sandy Rosenthal, founder of levies.org, shares her journey of uncovering the real cause behind the catastrophic flooding in New Orleans. She details the harassment and pushback she faced from the Army Corps of Engineers and the extensive damage caused due to improperly built levees. Sandy explains her strategies to counter manipulation and emphasizes the importance of never letting anyone make you feel defensive. The conversation also highlights Rosenthal's ongoing mission to incorporate lessons from engineering failures into college curricula to prevent future disasters.

Topics

00:36 Today's Topic: Manipulation and Sandy Rosenthal

01:32 Sandy Rosenthal's Background and Mission

02:19 Challenges and Pushback

04:46 Discovering the Truth

07:15 Online Harassment and Orchestrated Attacks

09:38 Exposing the Army Corps of Engineers

15:20 Manipulative Tactics and Defense Strategies

19:42 The Challenge of Addressing Complex Issues

20:09 Handling Manipulative Questions with Grace

20:41 The Importance of Tone in Responses

21:46 Learning from Past Mistakes

23:02 The Cost of Harassment and Legal Battles

25:39 Remaining Neutral Under Pressure

31:32 The Mission of Levies.org

32:58 The Legacy of Sandy Rosenthal

35:13 Final Thoughts and Contact Information