Kate and Damon have both been on this podcast before - but never together.

Much in the same way that they are both appearing in two massive films released this month. One of those films is a Christmas movie based on a much loved song - and the other is a biopic based on the life of a much loved singer!

Better Man - in cinemas Boxing Day 

How to Make Gravy - on Binge, right now.

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