It's time to take a trip to Italy! On this episode, we're joined by Sarah Penner who is out with her new book "The Amalfi Curse." It's set in present-day Positano and in the 1800s. The novel features witches, sunken treasure, and forbidden love in a picturesque Italian village. This is Penner's third book following her debut "The Lost Apothecary" in 2021. One of the main characters is a nautical archeologist and in her research for the book, Penner actually got two online certifications on the subject. She chats with Whitney about that, her research trips to Italy, how she was able to quit her full time job, her adventures in scuba diving and why she thinks women need to sometimes be selfish in accomplishing their dreams.