The national debt in the United States now sits at over $USD36 trillion, with a debt-to-GDP ratio around 124 percent – it’s what some economists call the death zone. President Donald Trump is hoping his tariffs will bring in enough revenue to bring the debt down – but will his plan work?  

• GUEST: Satyajit Das, columnist, former banker, and author of "A Banquet of Consequences: Reloaded" and "Fortune's Fool: Australia's Choices.
• PRODUCER: Catherine Zengerer