In this anniversary episode of Savvy Sisters & Cocktail Conversations, Julie Flowers and Yvonne Rocha Contreras clink glasses (bubbly or mocktail—no judgment) to celebrate one full year of real talk, sisterhood, and unapologetic growth. And they’re marking the milestone by blowing up a myth: that joy is fluffy, optional, or unserious.
THE TWIST: Joy is strategy. Joy is resilience. And joy might just be the most rebellious leadership move a woman can make.
They unpack the difference between happiness (cute, fleeting, and usually external) and joy (deeply rooted, grounded, and sustainable AF). Then comes the truth bomb : women are taught to armor up, stay serious, and hold it all together—which is exactly why choosing joy is a radical act.
Julie and Yvonne call full BS on the myth idea that joyful leaders lack credibility (spoiler alert: the data says otherwise). They name the real joy-killers—guilt, grind culture, the “serious leader” performance myth, and the lie that rest is optional—then flip the script with practical, doable joy practices. Think: non-negotiable date nights, bold colors, chocolate breaks, micro-moments of fun, and actually celebrating wins like they matter (because they do).
Consider this episode your permission slip to lead with lightness, power, and a whole lot more joy.